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  • CH.11 WHEN THE UNCONSCIOUS REFUSES THE INCUBATION

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    Several months ago we started studying dream incubation. We have examined several aspects of the topic. Now it is time to take the following question into consideration and see what  the dream answers :

    Does the unconscious always answer an incubation question ?

     

    With the latest dreams we have seen that the unconscious doesn’t like to be asked questions repetitively. It accepts giving the desired information of course, but it will only give what it deems necessary. When we look at the dreams, it appears that the unconscious doesn’t always have the same point of view as us, concerning what we need to know or not.

    Today, you will read an answer to an incubation dream, which is much harsher than the preceding one, because the dreamer is trying to exploit the unconscious to his own advantage.

     

    The dreamer Arnaud is very worried because his wife is sick.  However, what poses a problem to him is not the state of her health but rather he worries that she may no longer be able to work, and that means a loss of income. He calculates the family finances.

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    What he’s truly concerned about is not how he can help his wife or what kinds of treatments could cure her, but rather whether she will get money from a “paid” sick leave. He asks his dream to answer this question.

     

    Dream: The Sovereign Cat.

    I go into a “café”. There is a black cat in the middle of the hallway. I raise my leg to go over it. The cat lifts its head, glares at me…

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    I am paralyzed, I can’t put my leg over across the cat, I can’t go into the café.

     

    Interpretation

    The “café”.

    It is the place where one can drink a black tonic beverage which wakes you up : coffee.

     

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     Last time we have seen a frequent meaning of coffee :

    The beans of the coffee tree are the fruits representing the dream symbols which appear naturally. The dreamer collects them and the dream interpreter acts as a coffee bean roaster, a blender, a coffee machine, transforming the beans to obtain an universally appreciated drink : this black liquid which awakens is the interpreted dream.

     

    The setting

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    The “café” represents the place, the moment when the dreamer makes contact with the unconscious through dream interpretation.

    For Arnaud, in view of the question he asked, the setting, this “café” represents the place where he can geta dream interpreted and the desired information.

    So Arnaud would like to get an answer thanks to an interpreted dream.

     

    The black cat in the hallway.

    The cat is a domesticated animal, which nonetheless retains a wild side.It lives in the home environment but can’t be trained. It is ferociously independent. It has the very rare ability to see in the dark, in the night.

    It’s black color, like that of the coffee, expresses its link with the unconscious.

    So what is the cat ?

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    This black cat is the way the unconscious chooses to present itself to the dreamer.  When Arnaud goes into the “café” to get his dream interpreted and to know if his wife will receive a pension, first he comes across the cat, this natural instinct, the unconscious, which sees in the night and can never be trained. 

    This cat occupies the middle of the passageway, as if it were the master of the place, as if it were guarding its entrance.

     

    I raise my leg to go over it.

    Our friend wants to go in.  He doesn’t pay any attention to the cat, he could acknowledge it :

    - Oh ! Hello cat !

    So he could write a letter and say :

      - Dear dreams !

    He could even bend down, pat the cat and say.

    - Wow, you’re so beautiful!  Could you let me go by ?

    Would you please help me to see clearly our present financial situation ? Your information would allow us to plan ahead. Will my wife get a workman’s compensation ? Thank you very much for answering.

     

    But no, Arnaud ignores the cat and wants to step over him. He wants to get his dream and the information without any consideration for the unconscious, as if Arnaud were master of the cat-unconscious.

     

    The cat lifts its head and glares at me.

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    Lightning is the attribute of Zeus, the king of gods, it is also that of Yahweh, the God of Jews, also called the god of ire. Lightning bolts are the manifestation of the divine wrath. 

    So, it’s as if the cat were saying: who is this boor who intends to go over me and acts as though I didn’t exist?  This guy is ill-mannered.

     

    I can’t cross over the cat

    The anger of the cat paralyzes the dreamer.  He won’t be able to enter the “café”: the incubation process won’t work, he won’t get the dream that would give him the information he wants.

      

    Comment

    This little dream is highly significant.  It underlines a recurrent trait in our cultures today : I mean a lack of attention toward the unconscious and ignorance regarding the interior world at large. All the rituals designed to approach this dimension have been neglected, forgotten.  We act as boors and consider ourselves as masters of the domain ! The unconscious finding us very casual, becomes contemptuous and reacts vigorously !

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    The analysis of this little dream shows us that the unconscious manifests itself as an autonomous reality which is not under our power.

    It is an independent, sovereign function. 

    The unconscious is willing to cooperate, to help but we fall prey to a big illusion, if we think we can exploit or abuse it. The unconscious cannot be manipulated and will never be at our ego’s service.

    Moreover the last image shows clearly that the unconscious paralyzes the one who tries to exploit it for personal material gain.

     

    Conclusion

    You might have noticed that the image of the cat in Arnaud’s dream doesn’t have the same signification as the cat in Irina’s dream posted earlier.  The meaning of an image changes according to the dreamer and the circumstances. 

    In Irina’s dream the cat symbolized a man in the outer world.

     

    Here, in Arnaud’s dream the cat manifests the same mysterious, independent, sovereign dynamism, that the Egyptians adored in cats, in the cat-goddess Bastet.

    Truly Arnaud’s cat appears much more powerful than the humans. The cat dominates, it possesses a divine quality.

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    So, you can see in this contemporary dream the permanence of representations and conceptions which were found in vestiges of the past, some dating as far back as 5000 years old. Carl Gustav Jung called these images “archetypes”. These are not created voluntarily by human minds, they appear by themselves as images in dreams, and represent powerful dynamisms. Our ancestors considered them as the manifestations of divine forces on the earth. 

    Could this dream invite us to understand that the unconscious is divine ? 

     

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    Illustrations

    I thank the artists for their illustrations listed in order of their presentation :

    Calculations : capifrance.fr

    Le café du Forum, by the French artiste Vincent van Gogh,19th century.

    Black cat : caneton.fr

    Egyptian cat : chaosexmachine.info.fr

     

     

     

  • HOW TO INTERPRET AN OBJECT IN A DREAM

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    COFFEE AND COFFEE BEANS

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    Before we continue with the next chapter on dream incubation, I think it is time to transmit another lesson to help you interpret your own dreams.  Today we will see how to interpret an object.

     

    A particular frame of mind

    As I have already mentioned (April 14th 2011), before starting, you must put yourself in a certain frame of mind :

    You must put aside all previous knowledge and all pre-conceived ideas.  The use of symbols’ esoteric dictionaries, and other related compilations are to be banned, as well as tarot cards and such.

    You must remember that  YOU WILL FIND BY YOURSELF, with a little research, reflection and patience.

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     You must express the ideas that come to mind.  You will learn to keep the pertinent ones and drop the others.

     

    Example

    Here is a fairly common image that I will decipher by going through the famous interview technique’s  5  steps.

     

    Here is Sabina, she studies her dreams. The day before she has just worked hard to interpret one of them and at night she dreams :

     

    I drink a coffee, it’s very good.

     

     

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    Now, pretend that you are Sabina and here is how you are going to proceed to analyze the image of the object “coffee”:

     

    1- First step

    Question #1:   WHAT IS IT ?

    You ask the question : What is a coffee?

    Your answer as Sabina :  it is a drink obtained from coffee beans.

     

    You can’t find the meaning of the drink without understanding the meaning of its basic ingredient.  So you find yourself at the outset of an exciting investigation and ask question #1 again.

     

    Question #1:  What are coffee beans?

    Answer: they are beans growing on coffee trees, which have been roasted.

     

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    2- Second step

    Question#2:  HOW IS IT ?

    How are coffee beans?

    Answer : they’re small and hard.  You can’t use them as is. It doesn’t taste good.  They have to be put through a whole process of transformation before you can get a coffee from them.

           

     

    Advice : gather only a few answers, that is usually sufficient.

     

     

    3- Third step

    RECAPITULATE

    Go over the associations given in step 1 and 2 and choose the most abstract ones : 

    “ coffee beans cannot be used as is, they must first go through a process of transformation.

     

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    4- Fourth step

    ESTABLISHING THE LINK WITH THE EVERYDAY LIFE

    You are going to look for what the meaning of the coffee beans corresponds to in your everyday life. 

    For this:

    - You repeat the recapitulation sentence,

    - And you add the essential question which will always be the same :

    “ In relation to yesterday, when I put so much effort looking for the meaning of my dream, what does it remind me of, either inside or outside myself, something that cannot be used as is but must first go through a process of transformation ?”

     At this point you search, you reflect on your own, you pick at your brain :

     

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    To help with your concentration you repeat the question to yourself :

    - Something that can’t be used as is…

    - which must first go through a process of transformation…

    - at this time in my life, when I’ve just been working to try and interpret my dream…

    - what is that ?

    ...on the inside ?

    ...or on the outside ?

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    - …Outside myself?  I can’t see…

    - …Or inside myself, …when I interpret my dream?...What goes through a transformation process ?...

    …Ah ! Those darn coffee beans wouldn’t they represent the symbols in dreams ?

     

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    5- Fifth step

    MAKING VERIFICATIONS

    Let’s see if coffee beans can represent dream symbols.

    To do this, you have to verify that everything you have said about coffee beans can also be said about symbols.

    So you must proceed meticulously and go over all the associations one after the other to check if they also adequately fit to the dream symbols.

    You said : 

    Coffee beans are small and hard. 

     

    dreams,dream interpretation,christiane riedel,judith saint laurent,dream symbol,coofee beans, coffee, interview techniqueYou can’t use them as is, it’s not good.  They must be put through a process of transformation.

    You verify by asking and answering :

    - Is a symbol small?

    -Yes in a whole dream, it is a small element.

     

     

     

    - Is it hard?

    - Yes ! It’s hard to work on.

              - Can they be consumed as is?

               - Oh no ! They’re not consumable, you can’t do anything with them.

    - And for you, what is the meaning of this whole process of transformation to make them consumable?

    - Well, it’s all the work I put into the dream yesterday !  All the interpretation work, which allowed me to transform an incomprehensible symbol into something I can assimilate !

     

    Meaning of the symbol “coffee beans”

    Here in this dream the coffee beans are symbolizing the dream symbols themselves.

    Thanks to her work, Sabina has put them through a process of transformation which made them comprehensible.

     

    Advice

    This step called verification is indispensable.  When the links are rigorous and coherent, you can be sure that you have not made a mistake, and that the found meaning is adequate.

     

    Meaning of the dream

     

    I drink a coffee.  It’s very good.

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    With this ending, the dream is giving Sabina a wink underlining the quality of her interpretation work.  It’s very good !

     

     

    PUTTING INTO APPLICATION

    Following the compliments given by the dream, Sabina will no doubt continue the conscientious work.

     

    A comment

    Foods are  frequent dream images. If you are working with your dreams, it can happen that you dream for example of a hot chocolate, wine, champagne, pancakes.

     

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    The basi ingredients such as chocolate beans, grapes, grains, composing these foods, can symbolize the dream symbols themselves ; fish can also symbolize the dream symbol.

     

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    And all the culinary preparations requiring a lot of work often represent in dreams the dream interpretation work.

    With much attention and love, you are transforming something, that cannot be assimilated as is, in a tasteful food. It is the same with the dream interpretation : your careful work transforms the symbols so that you can understand and integrate the fortifying message of the dream.  

     

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    Illustrations 

    I thank all the artists and photographs whose works permit me to illustrate my blog.

    Thinking woman :nexity-investissement.immobilier.com

    Thinking man : sprlmajor.com

    Cup of coffee : derekberry.wordpress.com

    Coffee beans : colombia-travel

    Roasting : cafevrac.com

                    mon-café.fr

    Searching : leblogdanais.over-blog.com

    Searching : photographie-g.jimbo.com

    Coffee beans : coffeebeans.ic

    Roasted beans : inetgiant.com

    Roasted beans : fantom-xp.com

    Coffee beans :cshisher.com

    Coffee cup and beans : navi-mag.com

    Coffee drinking : blog.thecoffeebump.com

    Chocolate :chocolate-source-co-uk

    Wine : terranova.fr

    Champagne : madecoamoi.fr

    Cacao beans : choco-club.com

    Grapes : ardenne-photo.com

    Wheat grains : fr.123rf.com

    Corn grains : fr.wikipedia.org

    In the kitchen : tribugourmande.com