CH 5 : The death of a loved one
In the preceding texts, I presented two dreams: one giving a warning about a physical cancer putting the body at risk, the other warned of a moral cancer gnawing at the dreamer’s spirit and soul.
I compared the two dreams, and I showed you how to differentiate between a dream that is premonitory and one that isn’t. I explained how to distinguish whether the alert designates a physical, material danger or rather a symbolic one.
Let us underline that the symbolic message isn’t of a lesser importance, even if the dreamer often considers it as such.
I now will pursue this exposé on premonitory dreams with some dreams that really inspire fear, because they announce the death of a close one.
So today I will recount dreams that talk about a real death.
There are many excellent studies on the subject. One of the best research has been made by the famous scientific Camille Flammarion, ( 1842-1925). So my first example is taken from his book titled “La Mort et son Mystère” : “Death and its Mystery”, (1921).
1) This is about a perfectly level headed, rather skeptical territorial judge and land administrator in Russia in 1894.
In the evening he goes home where he lives with his mother. He finds her quietly playing cards with friends. After wishing her a good night, he goes to bed.
“- The next morning I woke up in a cold sweat, shaking from the terrifying dream that had assailed me…
I clearly saw my mother approach my bed. She kissed me on the forehead and said:
- Farewells, I’m dying, I’m dying !”
I was about to get up and go to my mother’s room when I heard a big commotion in the house, people were running. My mother’s maid rushes into my room, in tears and screaming:
- Sir, the Mistress has just died !
Her death was caused by an aneurysm : crushing congestion.”
We find similar testimonies everywhere. It’s up to you to forge your own opinion.
2) Now I will choose an example taken from my own experience and report the story that one of my students told me.
When I was teaching (I’m now retired) every year I would ask that my students write a paper on the following subject: “Tell us about a dream that made an impression on you.”
Here’s what one of my pupils wrote:
“ Last year when I was still in primary school, one morning I woke up distressed. I had just had a terrible nightmare.
In my dream I saw me just awakened. As usual I went to say hello to my grand mother and kiss her. So in the dream, I was going to walk through the living room to reach grand mother’s bedroom. I went into the living room and in the middle of it I saw a big bulk. It was a big box. Horrified, I knew that it was a coffin, in which my grandmother was lying.
I burst into tears and all of a sudden, I saw my grandmother get up and get out of her coffin with ease. She came towards me, took me in her arms and held me tenderly against her.
With an affectionate and comforting voice she told me :
“Don’t cry, it’s a farce !
On those words I woke up crying.
I ran into my grandmother’s room whom I found as joyous and alert as usual.
Reassured, I left for school after breakfast. After morning classes I went home for lunch and, when I came in, my mother told me that my grandmother had died.”
What can I tell you? There’s nothing to interpret. I can only ascertain the bad joke. The latter is usually for laughs but in this case it what an odious, macabre farce.
The young girl didn’t take her dream negatively. Very simply she told me:
“- I understood that death was a bad trick, that it’s not for real. I understood that my dream was telling me that, in reality, my grandmother was still alive, even though I couldn’t see her anymore.”
There is nothing to interpret. I’m only telling the story.
3) Now let me tell you what happened to me.
I was sixteen and my mother had died a few weeks earlier. She had had a brain cancer and had been operated on. As the tumor had severely affected her brain, following the operation she could neither speak nor move. Paralyzed and mute, she died three months later.
Soon after, one night I dreamt :
I was in an unknown bedroom. I could see my mother covered with sheets lying in bed. I was crying. Suddenly, to my astonishment I saw my mother move. She sat up in bed.
Completely disturbed I told myself :
- It’s impossible :
First, my mother was paralyzed, so she can’t be moving.
Second, she’s dead, so she really can’t be moving.
Bewildered, I then saw my mother set her two feet on the floor, get up and start walking.
I was flabbergasted and repeated the same reasoning:
- It’s impossible :
First, my mother was paralyzed so she can’t be moving.
Second, she’s dead, so she really can’t be moving.
Then I saw her coming towards me with opened arms and she said laughing :
- Christiane ! I’m alive, I’m alive !
For me, life after death became evident.
The dreams that I have spoken about don’t need interpretation. They speak for themselves. They happen very frequently and you will find people who have had dreams with such messages in your entourage.
Next time I will present similar dreams that are not premonitory on the concrete level but symbolic.
La Bocca Della Verità in Roma.
North Star by Alfons Mucha, Czech Art nouveau painter, 1860-1939
Camille Flammarion : 1842-1925
Madame Eugène Carrière by the French painter Eugène Carrière, 1849-1906
The Cross in Solitude by the American painter Thomas Cole, 1801-1848
Love by Eugène Carrière :
Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God Almighty by the English painter and poet William Blake, 1757-1827
Resurrection by William Blake
Hi, dear blog friends !
It has been a long time, nine months, since I have not put any text on my English blog.
I have to tell you first a sad new : Judith Saint-Laurent, our Canadian translator, won’t translate anymore. I am really sorry.
However Judith had already translated all my studies on premonitory dreams. So now I can go on.
I thank Judith from the bottom of my heart for all her translation works.
Now, I would ask you to forgive me for any mistake in English.
There are also a lot of good news : as I have already mentioned to you, it seems that French people are getting increasingly interested in dreams.
In fact I am quite busy with more and more activities.
- I continue leading my dream school and teaching my students :
- So, I created and lead 2 intensive dream interpretation seminars in summer, each lasting 5 days. That was a huge work.
- I also lead 5 week-end seminars on several topics. It has been again a huge work.
- Consultations and writing for my French blog, all that keeps me very busy too.
- In January I was invited by the radio ADO FM for the programme : “Bob tells you all the truth.” I interpreted live dreams. There were hundreds of calls.
People were so glad that Bob invited me again in February.
And at last but not at least I now have a grand son, Djaidy. I am so much fond of the little boy, he also takes me a lot of time ! What a joyful new !
Next time I will continue on the subject of premonitory dreams, and talk you about dreams announcing the death of a loved one.
Summer seminar during 5 days, here with the Canadian Judith, the Pole Ewa and me.
Workshop at home : Coffee time , an expresso, Jean Louis and Bruno in my kitchen.
Broadcast at ADO FM with Bob.
The little boy
In the preceding studies about premonitory dreams, we have seen two dreams warning two women, Francis and Patricia, of cancer.
Let’s review the dreams.
Francis’ : (Refer to the text of “Premonitory dreams”, ch.1, of 04 19 2012)
“ One evening, I got home after a routine check-up with my gynecologist.
Everything was fine. Three days later I left on vacation.
During the night I woke up in a sweat.
I had just dreamt that I had cancer in my left breast, in a very precise spot.
It was impossible to fall back to sleep.
At 9 the next morning I immediately requested a mammography.
Verdict : breast cancer, undetectable through palpation.
Three days later I was operated on.
This dream saved my life.”
Francis’ dream prooved to be a true premonitory dream. She did have a breast tumor.
Patricia’s : (Refer to the text “ Patricia’s brain tumor, ch.3, of 05 29 2012)
Last night I dreamt I had a brain tumor.
Patricia dreamt of a brain tumor and the warning was symbolic.
The day before Patricia had been overwhelmed by hate for her husband. She understood that all her resentment, her negative thoughts were the equivalent of malevolent cells, which like a brain tumor were threatening her.
As she said, she was invaded, devoured by destructive thoughts, which were undermining her, ruining her life.”
What is it that allows me to establish the distinction and say whether the warning of Patricia’s dream has a concrete or a symbolic meaning ?
I am able to draw the conclusion thanks to the methodical analysis of the dream.
Working with the dreamer I looked at her dream,
and I established carefully the link between the dream’s image and the previous day’s events.
I would give the following advice in working with this type of dream and say :
"We can consider the dream at face value in the external life and say :
Your dream seems to be clear and would not need any interpretation, as in Francis’ case. It may really be a premonitory dream. In this case you would have to react accordingly.
But we must not exclude the possibility that your dream has a symbolic interior meaning and we have to verify this hypothesis.
In Patricia’s case the dream said :
“Be careful, your situation is alarming, it’s AS IF you had a brain tumor”.
After a careful analysis of the dream, if the symbolic interpretation doesn’t make any sense, come back to the first consideration and take the dream at face value in the external life and choose what you want to do.
It happens most of the time that working seriously with the dreamer, making the link with her interior life permits to establish that the dream has a symbolic meaning.
I think it is important to compare the two preceding dreams using 3 keys :
-1) Ask the question : What happened the day before ?
The day before her dream Francis had just seen her gynecologist who after palpation didn’t notice any anomaly, or tumor. As for Patricia, she did not have any medical examinations.
2 ) Examine the precision of the details given in the dream :
Francis’ premonitory dream establishes an in depth diagnosis and indicates with great precision the location of the tumor that the gynecologist could not detect. There’s no such thing in Patricia’s case where the dream gives only a general indication, without details.
3) Take into consideration the emotional state during and after the dream
The third key is the all important element, which permits us to establish the difference between a premonitory dream and a non premonitory one.
- In Francis’ case the dreamer was overwhelmed by her dream, she awakened in a sweat and could not get back to sleep. She was so tormented that she immediately set up an appointment for a mammography.
- Patricia’s reactions were less intense. The dream intrigued her without causing real anguish. But she nonetheless took her dream very seriously and immediately called me. In such a case, searching for help from a dream interpreter is indispensable. Thanks to the analysis we made, Patricia understood that her dream was talking about her harmful attitude and state of mind.
So 3 characteristics seem to allow us to say that the dream warns us of concrete danger in the exterior world :
1) Nothing in our life on the preceding day justifies the image of the dream.
2)In the case of a premonitory dream the details given are usually very precise.
3) Physical and emotional reactions are intense : sweat, insomnia, anguish and feeling upset.
We must keep these indications in mind because in due time they are the ones that will allow us to say whether the dream is a warning pertaining to the physical world or whether the dream has a symbolic signification pertaining to the psychic world.
But in any case, the seriousness of the situation remains the same.
I thank the artist for their paintings.
Crab : conseilslucbodin.com
Cancer, by Salvador Dali
Cancer illness by Salvator Dali
Forgotten sunglasses by Vladimir Kush
3 keys : ?
Brain : Vladimir Kush: islands of memory
Face : Vladimir Kush
Dream catcher by Vladimir Kush
In the preceding study I talked about Francis’ premonitory dream, which warned her of breast cancer.
Right after putting this dream on my blog, I received an e. mail.
“Hi, Mrs. Riedel
Could we please set up a telephone appointment to interpret my dream?
Last night I dreamt that I had a brain tumor.
Awaiting your call, I thank you.
Gosh ! Was that a premonitory dream ?
It was not to be taken lightly. It was urgent to explore it over the phone to understand its meaning. Here is how we studied this worrisome image with the interview technique. Patricia, answering my questions, gave me her associations.
The dream being very short, I immediately went to the heart of the problem :
- Listen, Patricia, your dream could possibly be premonitory. If that should be the case, you must go for tests immediately.
However, we must not neglect the possibility that your dream is symbolic and so at first we must analyze it from this perspective. If we don’t find a symbolic meaning, then we’ll have to conclude that your dream is to be taken at face value and act accordingly.
After these explanations, I began my interview :
- Patricia, what is a tumor?
- A tumor is a cancer, a serious, deadly illness. Malevolent, destructive cells multiply, causing disturbances, which disrupt life. These cells gnaw at healthy tissues and spread everywhere.
- What is the brain?
-The brain, says Patricia, is the seat of mental activity and consciousness. It is the part of me, which allows me to reflect, reason and understand. I can analyze, make hypothesis and deductions.
The brain also allows me to express myself through words and movements.
The preceding words are the dreamer’s own associations. Of course someone else could say something quite different about the brain. But I work exclusively with the dreamer’s associations.
Establishing the link between the dream and the dreamer’s daily life
Now, we had to put the dream into its context. So for this it was necessary to look at the events that occurred the day prior to the dream.
I went over the associations and, using the dreamer’s own words, I asked :
- Patricia, try to look back on yesterday. What happened? What does it remind you of, if I mention malevolent cells that gnaw at you, wreak mayhem in your mental life and affect your capacity to reflect, to analyze ? What was going on in your head yesterday ?
- What was going on in my head yesterday ?
Oh ! Yesterday, everything went wrong, I had a miserable day. I really hated my husband ! Everything is turning out wrong. I can’t put up with him anymore, our disagreements are amplifying, we have financial problems, he’s always yelling.
Also he doesn’t even look at me and he hasn’t made love to me in a long time. Mrs. Riedel, I’ve had enough, I can’t take it any longer. And yesterday all that came to mind; I imagined a lot of stuff in my head.
I told myself I would be better off without him, that I should leave him. The idea of ending up alone is not that frightful.
What I would really like is to find a man who appreciates me, who tells me I’m beautiful and desires me.
I would like a nice man, who is not a baby that you have to cater to, but one with whom mutual companionship is possible.
Oh ! You know, I’m so sorry to dump all this on you ! I’m embarrassed but sometimes I find my situation unbearable.
Quite moved I said :
- Patricia, don’t worry, listening to all this is part of my job. You know, studying our own dreams leads us to reveal ourselves, and this can only be achieved by being authentic. So you are justified in expressing your feelings.
But let’s get back to your dream.
Considering what you have just told me, how would your capacity to think and reflect (brain) be gnawed at by malevolent and harmful thoughts (cancer) ?
- Oh yes ! I see it clearly : the malevolent cells, that are threatening me, represent all this resentment, all those negative thoughts about my husband.
- So what do you think about the image of cancer ?
- Hum ! I’m invaded, devoured by destructive thoughts, which are undermining me, ruining my life.
- Yes. So your dream is a serious warning. You must understand that this proliferation of negative thoughts concerning your relationship with your husband is as dangerous as a real cancer.
Putting the message into application
So, now we’ve understood the meaning of the dream, which is not premonitory.
But once the interpretation is done, that is not all, the work isn’t over. It is wise to look for ways to put its message into application, to define concrete actions to correct and change the situation.
For our dreamer it means giving up a harmful attitude, choosing to replace it with a more constructive one.
From then on Patricia decided to accept life as it was presenting itself, welcoming the tiniest ordinary delights of everyday life as well as its difficulties.
She admitted that her husband wouldn’t behave according to her expectations ; so she decided to take him as he was without trying to change him.
Following this dream study we discover the surprising paradox of the dream path :
By accepting a loss, Patricia will gain.
By changing her state of mind, from now on she will undergo a transformation process, where she will learn endurance and perseverance.
By giving up her expectations, by accepting that her present life is not as she had thought or wished, she bears her ordeal.
Yes ! Experiencing frustration will lead her to understand its value ; this inner experience will develop the gem of the soul : patience.
Didn’t Christ say :
“In your patience you shall possess your soul” ? (1)
Her dreams will guide her through this transformation.
If we quickly had taken the dream at face value, we would have lost the precious life lesson given by the dream about patience.
Perhaps this dream has also a premonitory aspect : Couldn’t such a lasting negative state of mind sooner or later produce a brain cancer ? Who knows ?
Patricia and I were thankful and appreciative for the dreams guiding and warning us of dangers night after night.
How vigilant! How benevolent! How wise!
Don’t miss chapter 4 !
Next time we will compare the two preceding dreams : Francis’ true premonitory dream indicating a breast cancer and Patricia’s symbolic dream of a brain tumor, which only seems to be premonitory. We will define how to distinguish one from the other.
A question : lulumineuse.com
Brain cancer : faceauxcancers.fr
Yelling : topiro.com
Negative thoughts : « Waiting for the rain”, ladykereska.over-blog.com
Endurance : ladykereska.over-blog.com
Ordeal : ladykerezska.over-blog.com
Patience : “Pick up my Dream” by Insantosa, ladykereska.over-blog.com
Last time we saw a premonitory dream pointing to an impending danger.
Today, let’s see a dream unveiling an event, which will happen many years later.
This is Margaret’s dream, a student of mine who, twenty years ago, wanted to learn dream interpretation.
This dream came to her in 1992:
“I was part of a group going to a conference on health.
We were walking, I was in the back of the group and falling behind.
Then I found myself at the conference.
The subject was: “How to treat the illnesses of modern society and AIDS in particular.
I listened todifferent speakers and all of a sudden a voice spoke out and said:
“ - In the relatively near future – and I know in my dream that that means in twenty to thirty years – in the relatively near future, the voice says, dreams will be a very good therapy to treat the ills of modern society.”
The voice paused then added:
- It will even be an excellent therapy !
And then the voice strongly proclaimed :
- And it will be recognized.”
I was part of a group going to a conference on health. We were walking.
The dream invites the dreamer to take an interest in the research concerning health.
I was in the back of the group and falling behind.
The image underlines the dreamer’s lack of enthusiasm. She clearly shows resistances towards the dream world and has a very ambiguous attitude.
On the one hand, she seems to display open-mindedness in regards to the interior world by joining my workshops, but on the other hand she’s very hesitant, even defiant. She scarcely accepts that dreams have a meaning and can guide her on her life path. She doesn’t progress, she lags behind in this interior transformation work.
The subject of the conference was: how to treat the illnesses of modern society and AIDS in particular.
Why does the dream specifically mention AIDS?
Let’s look at the symbolic meaning of this illness. Symbolically AIDS is an illness of the soul.
AIDS contamination mostly happens when one makes love without any protection.
On the symbolic level it means that we embrace points of view without distrust and discernment ; we enjoy adopting fleeting opinions, ideas, ideals, and trendy behaviors which pretend to grant immediate pleasure. But we do it without using our own judgment to properly evaluate the soundness of these trends.
Our world is intoxicated with all kinds of fads and theories.
All these currents pretend to know human beings, but actually they don’, because they have no connection with the soul, the psyche, the symbol of which is the butterfly. In fact they don’t understand the dreams, which are the soul’s inner language.
We adopt the prevailing norms and conceptions, which deviate us from our authenticity. We no longer listen to our own instinctive reactions and feelings which are the forces defending us. We no longer know what is appropriate for us or not, we live in dispersal, conflict and anguish. We loose our capacity to fend for ourselves, we loose our immune power and we contract AIDS symbolically.
I listen to the different speakers and all of a sudden a voice speaks out and says:
“In the relatively near future – and I know in my dream that that means in twenty to thirty years –
Margaret received this dream in 1992. The dreamer knows in her dream that in a “relatively near future” means within twenty to thirty years which would be in : 2012, 2022. Twenty years ago the dream forecasted events, which are beginning to come true.
And here is what the dream predicted:
Dreams will be a very good therapy to treat the ills of modern society and particularly AIDS.
For many years our society has been witnessing the proliferation of therapies of all kinds, as one dream put it: “they sprout up like mushrooms after a rainfall”.
This multitude of different and varied therapies attempts to alleviate the prevailing distress, which goes to prove that the soul is ill. Actually the soul issuffering a great deal. Could the external pollution correspond to the internal pollution ?
But soon alongside all these reigning therapies, we will really come to understand that dreams have a therapeutic value, that they are a very good therapy. The dream will then regain its true dimension and the place it had been granted throughout all civilizations, except ours.
That’s why our society is sick.
The voice paused then added:
Dream will even be an excellent therapy !
And then the voice strongly proclaimed:
And it will be recognized.
So this dream reveals a long term perspective spanning over twenty or thirty years.
Margaret received this impressive premonitory dream to encourage her to persevere in her search, without expecting to gain immediate benefits or any recognition from her entourage concerning her dream work.
This dream did not have much effect on the dreamer, she abandoned her dialogue with the unconscious.
But for me, this dream was a blessing. Countless times it came back to my mind to support me during difficult moments : when in my solitude I saw people doubting my work, smirking, mocking me or shying away, because what the dreams told them was so different from the prevailing points of view ; and most of all dreams don't necessarily say what we would like to hear.
And so this great dream, which always brought me such solace, announced changes, which some people are preparing and working on, and others are witnessing.
I thank the artists and photographers.
Giraffe on fire, by the Spanish artist Salvador Dali, 1904-1989
Butterfly book, contemporary Russian artist Vladimir Kush,
Paranoid face, Salvador Dali, surrealisme.skynetblogs.be
Oiled Pelican in Louisiana, Monday 7 2010, photo Charlie Riedel, cyberpress.ca
The face of war, by the Spanish artist Salvador Dali, oilpainting.com
Purple Horse at Chartres, by Vladimir Kush
To the Safe Haven, Russian artist Vladimir Kush
Last year we started our blog of dreams studying the subject on dream incubation, which we continued in details over 13 chapters. Now in the following chapters we will deal with the subject of premonitory dreams.
First what is a premonitory dream ? Let’s have a brief look at etymology :
The adjective “premonitory” has its origin in the Latin verb “monere” which means to warn. The added prefix “pre” means before, so premonitory means to forewarn.
According to the dictionary, a premonition is an unexplainable warning, a thought, a feeling, of mysterious origin, that imposes itself to our consciousness and reveals an event before it happens. But the dictionary forgets to mention dreams aside to thoughts and feelings.
Personally, as Edgar Cayce said it, I consider that all dreams contain premonitory elements, images that inform the dreamers of happy or unhappy coming events and prepare them to face up to them.
A premonitory dream can point to an impending event. It can also unveil a later event, which will come about in a few months, a year or even many years later.
Let’s begin with a dream which forewarns of a danger, as is often the case. In this example the dream is an urgent alarm. I read it in a French woman’s periodical where readers were invited to tell the most bizarre thing that ever happened to them.
Francis told her story :
“ One evening, I got home after a routine check-up with my gynecologist.
Everything was fine. During the night I woke up in a sweat.
I had just dreamt that I had cancer in my left breast, in a very precise spot.
It was impossible to fall back to sleep.
At 9 the next morning I immediately requested a mammography.
Verdict : breast cancer, undetectable through palpation.
Three days later I was operated on. This dream saved my life.”
This dream needs no interpretation.
We receive warning dreams of all kinds every night. They are often as clear as Francis’ dream. We will encounter this again in the next chapters.
La Bocca Della Verità in Roma.
Inspiration by Michel Castan
Morning star by Alfons Mucha, Czech Art nouveau painter, 1860-1939
It’s Easter Friday.
On this very Friday, Jesus Christ was condemned and crucified.
I would like to bring to the fore a dream concerning the decisive moment of that day, the judgment of Christ, as reported in Matthew, ch. 27, 11-24.
Let’s go over the events :
Jesus is brought to court to be judged by the chief justice, the harsh and cunning Roman governor of Jerusalem, Pontius Pilate.
Before him the governor sees a man, who’s just been beaten by Jews who were lead up to it by their own priests.
They accuse Jesus of being a rebel who affirms to be king, thereby threatening the power of the Roman Emperor. Pilate interrogates the prisoner, whose silence or answers both trouble him. This prisoner is saying that his kingdom is not of this world. The Jews call him the “Messiah”, which means in Greek “Christ”. Pilate knows that Christ means “the one who received divine grace”. Pilate believes in the Divine, in Zeus, the Roman people have the deepest respect for the gods, they honor and fear their different manifestations.
So Pilate uncreasingly feels ill at ease, even more so since he finds no reason to condemn this man. He tries to save him.
He knows about the Jewish custom of liberating a prisoner at Easter time. A criminal named Barrabas has just been sentenced. So Pilate asks the priests who are accusing Christ : “Whom do you want me to release, Barrabas or Jesus who is called Christ ?”
And the text adds: “For he knew the priests had accused Jesus out of jealousy.”
Pilate is sitting on the judge’s seat, he is thinking about the situation.
At that moment, something happens that is unimaginable in our courts, a man comes in, sent by Claudia Procula, Pilate’s wife. The servant asks the governor’s permission to deliver her urgent message to him.
He tells the governor that she begs him not to be involved in this matter. “Let there be nothing between you and this just man.” She explains : she’s just had a dream and she suffered a great deal because of this man in her dream.
Does the servant say this publicly ?... In any case Matthew, the Jew, future Christian evangelist, reports the servant’s intervention as to Claudia Procula’s dream.
Pilate listens to the messenger, then continues with the open court. And what is his reaction ? He, the judge, finds no motive for accusation. He feels indignant, revolted, at seeing the Jews demand the death of an innocent man and at the same time ask for the liberation of a murderer.
He tergiversates, he tries to defend Christ, he asks the near riot crowd :
“- What evil has he done? ”
In response he hears :
“Crucify him! Crucify him !”
And why? Because Christ calls himself the Son of God.
The governor feels increasingly troubled, he becomes frightened : his wife’s dream, Christ’s assertions about his own identity, confirmed by the Jews, all that turns to a nasty business. He feels overwhelmed.
Again Pilate beats around the bush and tries to release Jesus but the crowd sets on killing him. The judge realizes that he won’t get anywhere and must close the case quickly.
It’s Friday. As governor of the Jews, he knows the customs.
Next Sunday is the famous Jewish “Pessah”.This is a huge feast commemorating the day when Moses, about 1200 years earlier, liberated the Hebrews from slavery in Egypt. Since that time, each year Jerusalem hosts a yearly celebration during which every Jew comes to make a sacrifice in the Temple in a spirit of remembrance and gratitude.
Pilate knows that there’s going to be an enormous gathering in Jerusalem and there could be manifestations and trouble. The governor wants peace and calm. So he asks for a bowl of water. Standing before the multitude, in a symbolic gesture, he washes his hands :
“I am innocent as to the blood of this just person, he says, this is your business. “
The Governor has just publicly shown that he is not responsible for Christ’s death.
What caused Pilate to declare that Christ was a just man ? Aside from his personal conviction isn’t that the expression his wife had used?
“Let there be nothing between you and this just man.”
Could you imagine today a judge interrupting the court proceedings to listen to his wife’s dream ? A judge taking into account a dream’s warning before judging the accused ?
This historical excerpt is a tremendous testimony showing the prevailing conception in Antiquity : all over dreams were recognized and respected by Jews as well as Greeks, Romans and Christians. They were of such paramount importance that the most eminent rulers, before reaching their decisions, took into account their own dreams as well as those of people around them.
I thank the artists and photographers.
Christ crucified by Savator Dali, painted according to a vision of St John of the Cross
Pilate, played by Richard Burton
Antique woman’s head: work of Fayoum
Antique man’s head: work of Fayoum
Pilate and the crowd saying “Ecce Homo” “ by Antonio Ciseri, 19th century
Pilate washes his hands by an unknown painter : tumeke.blogspot.com
Picture of the Nuremberg trial, 1945
Antique woman’s head, work of Fayoum
Dear blog friends
Last year the International Association for the Study of Dreams, IASD chose to have its annual congress in Europe, in Rolduc’s magnificent abbey in the Netherlands.
This year the International Congress will take place in Berkeley, California.
“Everyone dreams every single night. Now you have a special opportunity to understand and explore your dreams at the Sailing on the Sea of Dreams Conference, June 22-26, 2012.
This five day conference offers over 200 workshops, seminars and exhibits on all aspects of dreaming and is open to the public.
Sponsored by the International Association for the Study of Dreams, there are special programs with CE credits for psychotherapists and professionals, as well as many sessions of interest to the general public.
Hear and meet dozens of world-famous authors, researchers, and experts on dreams. Participate in the biggest dream conference ever held!
For information and registration, visit ASDREAMS.ORG.”
The dreams Conference takes place in the splendid Double Tree Hotel in Berkeley, a wonderful setting.
I hope you will have the opportunity to attend the Conference. I wish I could, but because it is so far, I will forego this special time with the other IASD members I was so pleased to meet last year in Rolduc.
Nevertheless my activities regarding dreams continue.
Now here’s some news about my activities in France :
In January I led a seminar on “Meaning of Christian symbols in dreams”.
In February I was in the North of France in Amiens, well known for its marvellous cathedral, miraculously saved during world war 2.
There I held a conference : “Dreams and the Bible”. The Bible actually relates nearly 250 dreams, through which the Divine directly speaks to human.
Over the week-end I held a dream interpretation initiation seminar. For the first time the attendees discovered the wisdom of this inner voice speaking to them during the night. They were so delighted at understanding how to decipher dreams, that some of them immediately signed up for an other seminar at the end of March.
During two five day intensive dream interpretation seminars, I will teach dream interpretation next summer : students will experience practical training on each other’s dreams. That ‘s why I work only with small groups.
From July 23rd –27th, the first will take place in the noble old city St Germain en Laye, famous for its castle.
The other, 6- 11 August, will be held in Provence, Southern France in the antique small village Antonaves.
Would it be that the interest in dreams and dreaming is awakening in France ?
Cathedral in Amiens, ( 1220-1288), recognized by UNESCO as World heritage of Humanity Site.
Once again, a coffee !
Last time I explained how to interpret an object in a dream. In that example the object in question was a coffee.
Today’s dream concerns the same symbol : a coffee.
Easy ! We’ve just covered that ! True, but surprise… surprise…
Loretta, who lives on a farm pays great attention to her inner life, she aspires to dwell in the light and love of Christ who appeared in her dreams several times.
She strives to remain sinless in a life of purity and perfection.
Recently she received this dream :
I am at my mother’s place, sitting in the kitchen. The priest, father Francisco enters, I go off to the bathroom. When I come back he’s no longer there.
I ask my mother :
- Did you offer him a coffee ?
- Sorry, I didn’t think about it.
Such an ordinary and simple scenario !
Let’s go on to the interpretation. Proceeding with the interview technique, I ask the usual questions.
Questions 1 and 2 : ( Refer back to lesson 2 : Who is the other ? 04/ 04/ 2011)
What can you tell us about your mother, what is your mother like?
Loretta says :
- My mother died several years ago, she was a devoted woman who did everything for her seven children. She was always very busy taking care of her house and family. She didn’t manifest her affection with cuddles but she puts her heart into everything she did.
I recapitulate :
Loretta’s mother is devoted to her family but doesn’t express her affection with cuddles.
I establish the link with everyday life
I ask Loretta : inside or outside yourself, who does it remind you of : someone who is devoted to her family, who doesn’t express her affection with cuddles?
The dreamer ponders, answers the question and finds the meaning of this symbol “mother”.
Loretta immediately recognises herself.
So Loretta’s mother symbolizes Loretta’s maternal aspect, putting her heart into her family’s care.
But to be sure of it, we must check that Loretta can apply to herself all that she has said about her mother.
Proceeding with the verifications
Loretta recognizes that such is the case. Each detail of the description suits her as well as her mother.
We now continue examining the next symbol : the kitchen
Questions 1 and 2
What is a kitchen and what is it like ?
In a home, the kitchen is the place “par excellence” where the mother prepares good meals for the family. A kitchen is a warm, welcoming place where people are happy to get together.
This is the setting in which
The priest, father Francesco arrives
- What is a priest ?
- He’s a man who helps you with your spiritual life, he guides you towards God.
- And father Francisco, what is he like ?
- Hesimply lives the day to day life ; he knows me well. He’s always telling me that I strain myself uselessly, that I feel guilty about too many things and that my efforts to attain perfection don’t necessarily lead me to God. He says that I’m fine the way I am, that God loves me the way I am, including my imperfections.
Making the recapitulation and establishing the link, I ask :
- Loretta, inside or outside yourself, someone who helps you in your spiritual life, who knows you well, who tells you that God loves you as you are, who does that remind you of ?
Loretta ponders, answers the question and finds the meaning of the symbol “priest” :
- On the exterior it’s father Francesco of course… inside, who would it be, in me ?
And within me,… someone who knows me ?… who tells me God loves me as I am…? Oh !… Could it be God ?
God. That is the meaning that Loretta proposes for the image of the priest :
Proceeding with the verifications
OK ! that’s a first interpretation hypothesis. Let’s do the verifications.
I go over all the associations given by the dreamer and ask :
- For you, is God present in your everyday life ?
- Yes, he’s always present in my thoughts and my heart.
- Does he tell you that you worry too much ?
- Well sometimes, as father Francesco says, I have the feeling that complicating things doesn’t necessarily please God.
- Does God consider that you are fine as you are ?
Loretta exclaims :
- Who loves me as I am ? Only God !
We’ve proceeded with the verifications and can conclude that father Francesco is indeed a symbol of the divine Father.
It’s not the first time we’ve seen the divine appearing under a human form. There are examples of that on my French blog :
- in the dream of an American business man in 1926, God was as a business man ( see 30 / 03 / 2008).
- in lawyer Ruben’s dream in 1990, God was a Jewish Capitalist (see 06/ 09/ 2009)
- in Michelle’s dream, God appeared as a man offering her a flower.
To refer to these dreams, you can consult the index of my French blog under the word “Dieu” (God).
Let’s get back to our study :
The priest arrives in the kitchen
This is the very place where the divine father chooses to present himself.
It is important to consider whom he is visiting.
He’s visiting the devoted mother, Loretta in her kitchen, who is expressing her love through repetitive humble daily tasks such as peeling potatoes, baking a cake, doing the dishes … again and again every single day.
And so the divine comes to visit those who serve others with devotion in their humble everyday life. For the dreams, it’s at this level that one can have and feel the experience of His presence.
I go off to the bathroom.
When father Francesco appears, Loretta, instead of welcoming him, leaves him and goes to the bathroom. She is single minded : she wants to be impeccable, her only thought is to purify herself to be worthy of meeting God.
I ask our dreamer :
- Loretta, what does this behavior remind you of ?
Loretta explains that she performs several rituals to purify herself, in preparation for contact with the divine.
She surrounds herself with candles, practices visualisations while concentrating on the image of Virgin Mary or Christ.
When I come back father Francesco is no longer there
But when she comes back to present herself to God…HE IS GONE, his presence is no longer perceptible.
This part of the dream clearly indicates that the divine comes to see her without waiting for her to be pure ; as the priest told her : “God loves you as you are, with your impurities.”
Then Loretta asks her mother
- Did you offer him a coffee ?
- Sorry I didn’t think about it.
Now let’s see
Question 1 :
- What is a coffee ?
- It’s something you offer someone as a greeting, says Loretta.
- And what’s it like ?
- It’s good, it’s hot and makes you feel good.
- Is there anything else ?
- No, I can’t think of anything else.
How to recapitulate ? What can I say, having so few indications ?
As for myself, my mind is still full of the previous study "Lesson 3" I just completed on my blog pertaining to the image of coffee, where I demonstrated that it symbolized dream interpretation.
So now what do I do with that ? Why would dream interpretation come up in the dream of this woman, who is asking for an interpretation for the first time.
I feel uneasy. It’s so pleasant when you already know. Now I’m searching, I’m on the phone, I must find quickly.
I go over my notes, I analyse the scenario and search for it’s logical deductions :
Loretta said that a coffee is a way of greeting someone, that it’s hot and good. But what happens in the dream ? Neither Loretta nor her mother offered the priest a coffee. Neither of them greeted the divine who presented himself in the kitchen, in the ordinary daily life.
Yes, that is the meaning of the image.
The dreamer said it at the offset : a coffee is a way of greeting someone. It would be useless to press on with the interview technique to find out more.
Now let me make a commentary
This little dream contains two lessons .
One lesson concerning dream interpretation :
Refrain from applying a pre-established meaning on an image.
Remenber : always start afresh with an empty mind, to avoid searching in a wrong direction.
Refrain from pressing on with the interview to get additional multiple associations. The first ones are generally sufficient. Overdoing it only leads to confusion.
This little dream also holds a great spiritual lesson
The fashionable purification rituals, the elevated aspirations to reach a higher level of consciousness in contact with the divine or “ascended” Masters, the efforts, the spiritualization exercises proposed by numerous pathways don’t always lead to a contact with the divine as shown in this dream.
Well no, it’s very simple, too simple, the divine accompanies us in our ordinary everyday life, and that is precisely the one we try to escape from, in our wish to have access to celestial spheres.
However when the divine manifests itself within our everyday life, without anything sensational, without miracles or synchronicities, without vibrations in the body or Kundalini experiences, without images or ecstasies, we forget to greet Him. When he comes telling us :
- I love you, as you are in your darkness and your little everyday life, with your errors, your insufficiencies, your weaknesses, that’s where I’m with you…
…we don’t even offer him a coffee.
I thank the artists whose paintings and photos allow me to illustrate my blog :
Christ, painted in the church St Hugues en Chartreuse by the French contemporary painter Arcabas.
Purity : artbible.net
Mother in the kitchen : fr.dreamstime.com
In the kitchen : tribugourmande.com
Priest : Father Louis Blondel, assassinated this year in South Africa : archives.fr.novopress.info
Padre Tortilla, Honduras priest : nospetitsfreresetsoeurs.org
Peeling potatoes : supertoinette.com
Dishes : vieuxdeux.blogspot.com
Candle : everyoneweb.com
Meditation : espaceducalme.canalblog.com
Virgin Mary : rayonaurore.jpg
Mercyful Christ : christroi.overblog.com
Angelus or evening prayer by the French painter Millet, 1857-1859.
Gone : painted in the church St Hugues en Chartreuse by the French contemporary painter Arcabas.
Dear blog friends,
Although we are all caught up in the hectic last moment preparations for the holiday season, we wanted to send you our best wishes for a
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
We are looking forward to communicating with you again through our blog to continue the narration of dream adventures.
Christiane and Judith
Nativity by Octavo Ocampo
Christiane’s dream or a dream answering a question without incubation
Hi ! This is Christiane, the author of the blog.
A dream came to visit me last night. In the morning it offered its pearls of dew on the meadow of my memory.
At dawn, I wandered barefoot in the grass, I gathered the fresh liqueur of its images and I savored it.
To day, I would like to share it with you.
I am on the mountain sitting on the ground, alone by the side of a dirt road. I am looking at the scenery, the mountains, the wide valley, the cloudless sky. All is green and peaceful.
I hear someone singing in the sky. He’s not heard much but he’s heard. He sings for the whole valley and the mountain. He sings Bach or Mozart.
He’s a young man, a soldier dressed in green. He’s sitting on something, suspended to something that we don’t see, that we don’t hear. This way he moves forward over the valley between the mountains. It’s very surprising, it draws attention, it’s beautiful, it doesn’t impose itself but once seen, once heard, it is unforgettable.
And these last words fill me with gentle, serene joy.
I am on the mountain sitting on the ground, alone by the side of a dirt road.
The mountain :
for me, life on the mountain can be very harsh, but the beauty of nature affords daily wonderment.
The mountain is green, covered with grass.
For me, grass represents dreams, as it renews itself permanently, naturally.
Does this description mean anything to me, what does it remind me of?
This image corresponds exactly to my daily life which is not always easy, but I’m filled with wonder when I see “Nature’s know how”. So this image adequately describes my everyday life devoted to inner life and dreams.
Sitting on the ground, alone by the side of a dirt road.
I am quite alone in this study of dreams and I pause by the roadside, I rest a while along my path.
I am looking at the scenery
The dream invites me to look at my life dedicated to dreams, so that I become more conscious of it. Why am I invited to look around and let my eyes wander ?
Since dreams often make comments about the day before, I ask myself :
- What happened yesterday that the dream wants me to see ?
Surely the sight before my eyes must reveal it.
What does this remind me of in view of my dedication to the study of dreams?... I don’t know.
I hear someone singing in the sky. He’s a young man, a soldier dressed in green.
A young man :
is dynamic way to affirm oneself in life. He is capable of undertaking enterprises to which he will devote most of his energy.
A soldier :
for me is a courageous man, willing to give up his own life to defend freedom, as so many French and foreign soldiers did in the last two world wars to liberate France, my country.
He wears a uniform, he belongs to an order he has chosen, he doesn’t allow himself to go astray and he abides by a certain discipline.
Dressed in green :
For me it’s the color of the forest, of the unconscious. This green is also the color that doctors wear in the operating room. With this detail the dream indicates that this singing soldier is practicing a therapeutic activity.
Using the interview method, I ask myself :
- What does all this description remind me of, in my interior or my exterior world, at this time in a life dedicated to dreams? That man is myself, I know that I am a soldier in the army of dreams, fighting for inner freedom. For years my dreams have repeatedly told me so. The unconscious is the victim of so much disorder, abuse and violence, we massacre so many facets of ourselves by excluding them from our lives. All racist crimes, all genocides, all cruelty against animals in the exterior world are first committed in our interior world, within ourselves, by ourselves, on ourselves and our instincts, and consequently they happen in the outer world.
That is what the soldier in the army of dreams, the interpreter, is battling against.
Yes, the dream interpreter is truly a soldier who defends the freedom of each individual’s inner world, the unconscious, which is so ignored, repressed and denied ; Truly in this way the interpret is creating freedom and peace in the outer world.
So this dream is talking about me, it is asking me to become aware of what I’m doing.
The soldier sings, he sings Bach or Mozart
From the point of view of the dream, when I express myself, it’s a song from within that comes up and I’m astonished at being told by the dreams that I’m singing Bach or Mozart. Yes, it’s true I am singing a sacred song when I interpret a dream.
He’s not heard much but he’s heard. He sings for the whole valley and the mountain.
The dream underlines that my words are not heard much but still that doesn’t keep me from singing.
The soldier is sitting on something, hanging from something that we don’t see, that we don’t hear. This way he moves forward over the valley between the mountains.
What is it that the dream wants to express when it puts me in such a position ?
Where do I find myself like that, in the air, in an immaterial realm singing for the whole mountain and the whole valley, singing without knowing who can hear me ? Oh ! It’s on my blog ! My dream is talking to me about my work on my blog ! Such a thoughtful attention ! It brings tears to my eyes.
Now I understand : yesterday I was asking myself all kinds of questions : - Do the interventions on my blog serve any purpose ? - - Is all the work I do with dreams useful ? - Is it adequate to say that dreams are the expression of the divine in every one of us, as I have shown in ch.10 with the dream of the cat in the café, and in ch.11 with Sylvia’s dream?
- -Won’t I scare away those who do not want to hear about divinity in man ? - Isn’t this the best way to turn them away from dreams?
- Is my tone appropriate?
Answering all my questions, my doubts, my worries, the dream came to reassure me, to let me know what it thinks of my blog :
It’s very surprising, it draws attention, it’s beautiful, it doesn’t impose itself but once you discover it, you hear it and it remains with you.
The dream left me with those last words, filling me with profound joy and serenity.
Michael Chance interprets the Passion according to Mathew by Bach
Last time we saw how Sylvia is intrigued by her dreams. They know everything of her life, the past, the future and they protect her night after night against the dangers of the life.
So she finally asks her dreams : What are dreams ? Here is the dream she got :
Driving my car, I arrive in front of a church. Mathilda is there waiting for me out front below the stairs. I step out of the car, she comes towards me with an outreaching hand and having got hold of mine, she takes me into the church.
Driving my car, I arrive
Sylvia has a car, which indicates that she has a fast and comfortable way of going forward in life.
We should note that a car rides on roads built for this purpose, that indicates that the dreamer easily goes forward in life on pre-established pathways same as everyone else. She is not part of those who advance slowly on foot, searching for their own way, surmounting the obstacles of the individual path.
I arrive in front of a church
This young woman is not particularly interested in spirituality. She has vaguely heard about Christ, the crucifixion, mass, communion and the Holy Spirit. For her the church is a building that was erected to greet the divine, to allow everyone to listen within where one can meet Him .
But in her everyday life Sylvia doesn’t go to church, so the church of her dream does not speak about the external church, but about an interior place.
So what does this mean in regards to the question asked : what are dreams?
Dreams are her interior church where she can meet the divinity and commune with It.
That’s all ! …
She got an immediate, clear, simple and direct answer.
But for the time, Sylvia has not yet entered this sacred place. She just arrives in front of this opportunity.
Mathilda is waiting for me below the stairs
Mathilda is her dream interpreter. She is aware of this dimension and is waiting for the dreamer to let her discover the interior reality.
I get out of my car
However, before being introduced, initiated, Sylvia must get out of her car, give up her habit of following pre-established ways to go forward.
How that ? She must set her two feet BELOW, DOWN on the ground, be more humble, walk by her own means to meet the dream interpreter.
Only with this humility she will be able to go UPstairs into the sacred place.
Mathilda comes towards me with an outreaching hand
Here the dream insists, it presents to the dreamer the interpreter who offers her help and support. It emphasizes that it is with her, thanks to her that Sylvia will be able to enter the dream path.
Having got hold of my hand she takes me into the church.
Mathilda, the interpreter then brings the young woman into her inner church, into her dreamworld within which the divine resides.
So, Sylvia had asked the incubation question : What are dreams?
Her dream answered:
Dreams are the interior church where the sacred encounter between human and divine unfolds. That’s why dreams are all-knowing, that’s why they are so wise and clairvoyant.
Not really, for what have all the old societies preceding us on earth said ? Didn’t they all declare that the dream is the natural channel through which the human soul meets the divine?
Everywhere one finds the widespread affirmation that dreams give access to another level of consciousness, which surpasses the conscious and grants knowledge that it would not have access to on its own.
Scientifically today we call this other level of consciousness the unconscious.
It is a question of vocabulary of course but we must know how others understand that word. Cultures who differ from ours consider that the unconscious, this other level of consciousness to which dreams give access to, is that of divine forces. That’s how they name it.
In preceding texts I have shown you that in Antiquity, for all, whether they be Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Jews, or Africans the divine spoke through dreams, whether he was called Yahweh, God or Aesculapius, Jupiter… And I didn’t speak yet of the Indians of the Americas and of others throughout the world. For them the unconscious is the expression of the divine dimension.
Sylvia’s dream says the same thing: the dream is the moment of encounter with an interior force, which proves a wisdom beyond our understanding.
What can the rational say? Could scientific reason be brought to recognize that as far as dreams are concerned it finds itself faced with a dimension with its own laws the rational does not know about, and which extends beyond its competency?
Could reason accept that rational means have attained their limits regarding the unconscious? Then, logically and rigorously reason would declare that it can’t say anything except that it finds itself facing a hyper-rational dimension.
That would be honest !
I thank the artists for their illustrations listed in order of their presentation :
Evening at Antiquity, 1908, by the French painter Alphonse Osbert, 1857-1939.
Pilgrim in a Rocky Valley, 1820, by the German artist Carl Gustav Carus
The Cathedral, by the German artist Caspar David Friedrich (1774-1840)
The Cathedral, by the German artist Friedrich Schinkel (1781-1841)
Hand in hand : liloo.citations.skyrock.com
Mystery of the Nignt, by Alphone Osbert
Moonlight, 1896, by the French artist Alphonse Osbert, 1857-1939
Sylvia is lucky, her friend Mathilda is one of the dream interpreters I have trained and so Sylvia often asks her to analyze her dreams…, and following this she has been encountering some intriguing experiences.
For example how could Mathilda know that Sylvia had forgotten to take her pill ? Mathilda didn’t know but the dream she interpreted knew it and came immediately to warn the dreamer of her omission.
Did Mathilda know the future when, following the interpretation of a dream, she suggested that her friend leave her boyfriend Bernard before he leaves her ?
Mathilda does see into the future, but the dream does :
Sylvia dreams :
I see a beautiful blond woman in a swimming pool. I suddenly see her being “take from behind” by her boyfriend and she leaves immediately after.
Mathilda warns Sylvia, represented by the beautiful blond, that Bernard is going to play behind her back, probably dump her for another woman. Sylvia should leave him immediately before he leaves her.
And what happens ?
Sylvia doesn’t listen to her dream, she is in love and wants to stay with her boyfriend. Two weeks later she faces the humiliating fact that he has preferred to share his bed with another girl.
Now let’s again consider the “benevolence” of dreams
Sylvia is unhappy at work and wants to quit her job. She would like to have a dream to guide her, but she knows that Mathilda is absent at that time, so she could not interpret it. Sylvia wonders what she should do. So she asks for a short, clear, simple dream that she can understand on her own.
Her question is :
- Tomorrow, should I tell my boss that I want to quit ?
All night Sylvia hears the famous German singer Lafee singing her disco song “Shut up, shut up, shut up!”
So she understands that she shouldn’t say anything !
So, the next day Sylvia doesn’t say anything. In the afternoon her boss tells her that the company is closing shop for two weeks and the employees will be on put on paid vacation. Having not been with the company long enough to warrant this, Sylvia is nonetheless given a paid vacation like all the others. If she had quit, she would not have gotten this “bonus”. She quit after her vacation.
How about that ! How can dreams know?
It’s “ too much” how they know past and future ! It’s really amazing how they prove to be right !
Sylvia then decides to ask her dreams a question :
- What are dreams?
We will see the answer next time.
Meanwhile do you remember Nathalie’s incubation (Chapter 2; 02/16/ 2011) : She made the same inquiry as Sylvia. She was so astonished by her dreams that she asked them several questions one night.
- My dreams, who are you ?
- Is it God answering in dreams ?
- And even does God exist ?
I thank the artists for their illustrations listed in order of their presentation :
Blond woman : sosuneterrienneendetresse.centerblog.net
Greatly vexed : sosuneterrienneendetresse.centerblog.net
? : lunettesrouge.blog.lemonde.fr
Several months ago we started studying dream incubation. We have examined several aspects of the topic. Now it is time to take the following question into consideration and see what the dream answers :
Does the unconscious always answer an incubation question ?
With the latest dreams we have seen that the unconscious doesn’t like to be asked questions repetitively. It accepts giving the desired information of course, but it will only give what it deems necessary. When we look at the dreams, it appears that the unconscious doesn’t always have the same point of view as us, concerning what we need to know or not.
Today, you will read an answer to an incubation dream, which is much harsher than the preceding one, because the dreamer is trying to exploit the unconscious to his own advantage.
The dreamer Arnaud is very worried because his wife is sick. However, what poses a problem to him is not the state of her health but rather he worries that she may no longer be able to work, and that means a loss of income. He calculates the family finances.
What he’s truly concerned about is not how he can help his wife or what kinds of treatments could cure her, but rather whether she will get money from a “paid” sick leave. He asks his dream to answer this question.
Dream: The Sovereign Cat.
I go into a “café”. There is a black cat in the middle of the hallway. I raise my leg to go over it. The cat lifts its head, glares at me…
I am paralyzed, I can’t put my leg over across the cat, I can’t go into the café.
It is the place where one can drink a black tonic beverage which wakes you up : coffee.
Last time we have seen a frequent meaning of coffee :
The beans of the coffee tree are the fruits representing the dream symbols which appear naturally. The dreamer collects them and the dream interpreter acts as a coffee bean roaster, a blender, a coffee machine, transforming the beans to obtain an universally appreciated drink : this black liquid which awakens is the interpreted dream.
The “café” represents the place, the moment when the dreamer makes contact with the unconscious through dream interpretation.
For Arnaud, in view of the question he asked, the setting, this “café” represents the place where he can geta dream interpreted and the desired information.
So Arnaud would like to get an answer thanks to an interpreted dream.
The black cat in the hallway.
The cat is a domesticated animal, which nonetheless retains a wild side.It lives in the home environment but can’t be trained. It is ferociously independent. It has the very rare ability to see in the dark, in the night.
It’s black color, like that of the coffee, expresses its link with the unconscious.
So what is the cat ?
This black cat is the way the unconscious chooses to present itself to the dreamer. When Arnaud goes into the “café” to get his dream interpreted and to know if his wife will receive a pension, first he comes across the cat, this natural instinct, the unconscious, which sees in the night and can never be trained.
This cat occupies the middle of the passageway, as if it were the master of the place, as if it were guarding its entrance.
I raise my leg to go over it.
Our friend wants to go in. He doesn’t pay any attention to the cat, he could acknowledge it :
- Oh ! Hello cat !
So he could write a letter and say :
- Dear dreams !
He could even bend down, pat the cat and say.
- Wow, you’re so beautiful! Could you let me go by ?
Would you please help me to see clearly our present financial situation ? Your information would allow us to plan ahead. Will my wife get a workman’s compensation ? Thank you very much for answering.
But no, Arnaud ignores the cat and wants to step over him. He wants to get his dream and the information without any consideration for the unconscious, as if Arnaud were master of the cat-unconscious.
The cat lifts its head and glares at me.
The cat/unconscious is indignant at this lack of consideration. Its anger is expressed by the fury of his glare. Lightning shoots from of its eyes.
Lightning is the attribute of Zeus, the king of gods, it is also that of Yahweh, the God of Jews, also called the god of ire. Lightning bolts are the manifestation of the divine wrath.
So, it’s as if the cat were saying: who is this boor who intends to go over me and acts as though I didn’t exist? This guy is ill-mannered.
I can’t cross over the cat
The anger of the cat paralyzes the dreamer. He won’t be able to enter the “café”: the incubation process won’t work, he won’t get the dream that would give him the information he wants.
This little dream is highly significant. It underlines a recurrent trait in our cultures today : I mean a lack of attention toward the unconscious and ignorance regarding the interior world at large. All the rituals designed to approach this dimension have been neglected, forgotten. We act as boors and consider ourselves as masters of the domain ! The unconscious finding us very casual, becomes contemptuous and reacts vigorously !
The analysis of this little dream shows us that the unconscious manifests itself as an autonomous reality which is not under our power.
It is an independent, sovereign function.
The unconscious is willing to cooperate, to help but we fall prey to a big illusion, if we think we can exploit or abuse it. The unconscious cannot be manipulated and will never be at our ego’s service.
Moreover the last image shows clearly that the unconscious paralyzes the one who tries to exploit it for personal material gain.
You might have noticed that the image of the cat in Arnaud’s dream doesn’t have the same signification as the cat in Irina’s dream posted earlier. The meaning of an image changes according to the dreamer and the circumstances.
In Irina’s dream the cat symbolized a man in the outer world.
Here, in Arnaud’s dream the cat manifests the same mysterious, independent, sovereign dynamism, that the Egyptians adored in cats, in the cat-goddess Bastet.
Truly Arnaud’s cat appears much more powerful than the humans. The cat dominates, it possesses a divine quality.
So, you can see in this contemporary dream the permanence of representations and conceptions which were found in vestiges of the past, some dating as far back as 5000 years old. Carl Gustav Jung called these images “archetypes”. These are not created voluntarily by human minds, they appear by themselves as images in dreams, and represent powerful dynamisms. Our ancestors considered them as the manifestations of divine forces on the earth.
Could this dream invite us to understand that the unconscious is divine ?
I thank the artists for their illustrations listed in order of their presentation :
Calculations : capifrance.fr
Le café du Forum, by the French artiste Vincent van Gogh,19th century.
Black cat : caneton.fr
Egyptian cat : chaosexmachine.info.fr
COFFEE AND COFFEE BEANS
Before we continue with the next chapter on dream incubation, I think it is time to transmit another lesson to help you interpret your own dreams. Today we will see how to interpret an object.
A particular frame of mind
As I have already mentioned (April 14th 2011), before starting, you must put yourself in a certain frame of mind :
You must put aside all previous knowledge and all pre-conceived ideas. The use of symbols’ esoteric dictionaries, and other related compilations are to be banned, as well as tarot cards and such.
You must remember that YOU WILL FIND BY YOURSELF, with a little research, reflection and patience.
You must express the ideas that come to mind. You will learn to keep the pertinent ones and drop the others.
Here is a fairly common image that I will decipher by going through the famous interview technique’s 5 steps.
Here is Sabina, she studies her dreams. The day before she has just worked hard to interpret one of them and at night she dreams :
I drink a coffee, it’s very good.
Now, pretend that you are Sabina and here is how you are going to proceed to analyze the image of the object “coffee”:
1- First step
Question #1: WHAT IS IT ?
You ask the question : What is a coffee?
Your answer as Sabina : it is a drink obtained from coffee beans.
You can’t find the meaning of the drink without understanding the meaning of its basic ingredient. So you find yourself at the outset of an exciting investigation and ask question #1 again.
Question #1: What are coffee beans?
Answer: they are beans growing on coffee trees, which have been roasted.
2- Second step
Question#2: HOW IS IT ?
How are coffee beans?
Answer : they’re small and hard. You can’t use them as is. It doesn’t taste good. They have to be put through a whole process of transformation before you can get a coffee from them.
Advice : gather only a few answers, that is usually sufficient.
3- Third step
Go over the associations given in step 1 and 2 and choose the most abstract ones :
“ coffee beans cannot be used as is, they must first go through a process of transformation.
4- Fourth step
ESTABLISHING THE LINK WITH THE EVERYDAY LIFE
You are going to look for what the meaning of the coffee beans corresponds to in your everyday life.
- You repeat the recapitulation sentence,
- And you add the essential question which will always be the same :
“ In relation to yesterday, when I put so much effort looking for the meaning of my dream, what does it remind me of, either inside or outside myself, something that cannot be used as is but must first go through a process of transformation ?”
At this point you search, you reflect on your own, you pick at your brain :
To help with your concentration you repeat the question to yourself :
- Something that can’t be used as is…
- which must first go through a process of transformation…
- at this time in my life, when I’ve just been working to try and interpret my dream…
- what is that ?
...on the inside ?
...or on the outside ?
- …Outside myself? I can’t see…
- …Or inside myself, …when I interpret my dream?...What goes through a transformation process ?...
…Ah ! Those darn coffee beans wouldn’t they represent the symbols in dreams ?
5- Fifth step
Let’s see if coffee beans can represent dream symbols.
To do this, you have to verify that everything you have said about coffee beans can also be said about symbols.
So you must proceed meticulously and go over all the associations one after the other to check if they also adequately fit to the dream symbols.
You said :
Coffee beans are small and hard.
You can’t use them as is, it’s not good. They must be put through a process of transformation.
You verify by asking and answering :
- Is a symbol small?
-Yes in a whole dream, it is a small element.
- Is it hard?
- Yes ! It’s hard to work on.
- Can they be consumed as is?
- Oh no ! They’re not consumable, you can’t do anything with them.
- And for you, what is the meaning of this whole process of transformation to make them consumable?
- Well, it’s all the work I put into the dream yesterday ! All the interpretation work, which allowed me to transform an incomprehensible symbol into something I can assimilate !
Meaning of the symbol “coffee beans”
Here in this dream the coffee beans are symbolizing the dream symbols themselves.
Thanks to her work, Sabina has put them through a process of transformation which made them comprehensible.
This step called verification is indispensable. When the links are rigorous and coherent, you can be sure that you have not made a mistake, and that the found meaning is adequate.
Meaning of the dream
I drink a coffee. It’s very good.
With this ending, the dream is giving Sabina a wink underlining the quality of her interpretation work. It’s very good !
PUTTING INTO APPLICATION
Following the compliments given by the dream, Sabina will no doubt continue the conscientious work.
Foods are frequent dream images. If you are working with your dreams, it can happen that you dream for example of a hot chocolate, wine, champagne, pancakes.
The basi ingredients such as chocolate beans, grapes, grains, composing these foods, can symbolize the dream symbols themselves ; fish can also symbolize the dream symbol.
And all the culinary preparations requiring a lot of work often represent in dreams the dream interpretation work.
With much attention and love, you are transforming something, that cannot be assimilated as is, in a tasteful food. It is the same with the dream interpretation : your careful work transforms the symbols so that you can understand and integrate the fortifying message of the dream.
I thank all the artists and photographs whose works permit me to illustrate my blog.
Thinking woman :nexity-investissement.immobilier.com
Thinking man : sprlmajor.com
Cup of coffee : derekberry.wordpress.com
Coffee beans : colombia-travel
Roasting : cafevrac.com
Searching : leblogdanais.over-blog.com
Searching : photographie-g.jimbo.com
Coffee beans : coffeebeans.ic
Roasted beans : inetgiant.com
Roasted beans : fantom-xp.com
Coffee beans :cshisher.com
Coffee cup and beans : navi-mag.com
Coffee drinking : blog.thecoffeebump.com
Wine : terranova.fr
Champagne : madecoamoi.fr
Cacao beans : choco-club.com
Grapes : ardenne-photo.com
Wheat grains : fr.123rf.com
Corn grains : fr.wikipedia.org
In the kitchen : tribugourmande.com
Last time we saw how my dream brought me to understand how flippant I was with my repeated incubations. I realized that the unconscious is a friend that one should not inconvenience. It gives us the information that it deems necessary and then it’s up to us to make our decisions.
God gave us conscious faculties, the intelligence with the capacity to reflect, analyze and judge and the feelings. Using them, we can make a choice. So it is lazy to prefer to incubate a dream. Help is provided by a dream only when our conscious means are no longer sufficiant to help us because the solution is beyond the conscious’ reach.
Here today is a beautiful dream that illustrates this.
This dream came to Anna at a time in her life when she faced a particularly difficult career decision, a perplexing choice between two completely opposite positions :
I am with the Virgin Mary, whom I know to be my close friend.
Mary asks about what is going on in my life. When I tell her of my pending career decision, Mary insists that we go to see a psychic named Ruth. I am reluctant to see a psychic.
But Mary assures me that this one is so good that years earlier she has predicted the immaculate conception, Mary’s marriage to Joseph, and the resurrection of Jesus.That makes me feel more comfortable.
When we meet Ruth, I am very impressed – Ruth is everything an enlightened being should be.
I pose my career-choice question to the psychic, only to get this response :
- What a wonderful opportunity you have, and I know you’ll make the right decision !
The dream does not give any answer, but it exerts a stimulating effect on the dreamer, who by then has understood that the decision belongs to her. Even the best psychic cannot help her. And why would she do it, since Anna has within her the capacity to make her own decision ?
What a wonderful opportunity to trust one self and take the decision without incubation !
Dreams, Tonight’s Answers for Tomorrow’s Questions, Mark Thurston, Harper and Row, Publishers, San Francisco, p.99
I thank the artists for their illustrations listed in order of their presentation :
Perplexed woman : befully.com
Mary : Sonia Rolland, Miss France, actualite-portail.free.fr
A psychic : love-whoami.blogspot.com
Announce to Mary by the English painter and poet Dante Gabriel Rosetti, 1828-1882
Resurrection by the German painter and engineer Mathias Grünewald
The psychic Ameline: lesmeilleursvoyants.fr
Castle on River, 1820, by the German painter and architect Karl Friedrich Schinkel
This question can seem curious.
Before attempting to see how the unconscious reacts, we should first look at how the conscious itself reacts regarding incubation.
Generally, what do we do, when we discover the natural and beneficial process called dream incubation?
At first, we try it and we are thrilled that it works.
We rush to ask many questions at the same time and receive several answers during the same night.
This makes the dream interpretation very complicated or almost impossible, because we cannot discern which scenario answers which question. So it’s important to ask only one question per night.
Often, night after night, we start asking systematically our dreams all kind of questions.
-should I sell my house and move somewhere else?
-for what city should I request my transfer?
-is a certain transaction I’m contemplating advantageous?
-what can I do so that my son will get along with my boyfriend?
All questions are possible. That is the position of the conscious.
We imagine the dream as a machine to foresee the future and to serve us. This harassment of the unconscious reflects our conscious desire to exploit it. This greedy attitude, which characterizes our western culture is completely wrong and the unconscious points it out quickly through a dream.
I had this attitude myself, when I first started analyzing my dreams alone.
I made an incubation and received a dream which I interpreted. But I had doubts about my work and I wanted to know if it was correct or not.
I asked for another dream, so that I could be sure. The next day, after analyzing this subsequent dream, I doubted again.
And asked for still another dream.
I got one and you will see how the unconscious reacted facing my repetitive incubations.
Here is my dream
I’m a guest at an friend’s place. She is an old lady. I sleep in a room that has three beds.
I’m very annoyed because one night I slept in a bed, the next night in another one and the third night in the third bed.
I’ve already soiled two sets of sheets and now a third one. I feel puzzled at my off-handed behavior. It’s really not fair, I’ve had no consideration for my hostess whom I’ve given three times the work . I feel appalled that I took advantage of my old friend’s kindness. I was negligent, I should have been more attentive. I woke up feeling so sorry, apologizing to this old lady , wondering how I could have been so casual.
They wrap the sleeper and insure a comfortable sleep. For me they represent the dreams.
The 3 beds
A bed can represent the place where one makes love but for me, at that time, in regards to the question asked, the bed is the place where I sleep, the setting in which I abandon myself to the unconscious.
The 3 beds represent the three successive nights and their respective questions, asked in spite of the fact that I had already been answered in the first night’s dream.
My friend, the old lady
Who is this very experienced lady who provides the dreams ?
The old woman is often an image symbolizing the unconscious.(See note 1) Kindly, yet firmly the old lady made me feel that my repeated incubations were a lack of consideration in regards to her. She had already provided me with the sheets in the first bed, the dream on the first night, I had already received the answer I needed.
It was ill-mannered of me to soil three sets of sheets thereby requiring additional work on the part of the lady.
This made me understand that through my dreams I’m given the necessary information and It’s left up to me to decide how I will use it.
I felt that my friend, the old lady was telling me:
- You have to manage by yourself, you’ve already received more than your due, you’ll get no additional indication. Be satisfied with what you were given, you asked for too much.”
When I woke up, I was so confused that I promised myself not to do that again. I never forgot this lesson.
In the next text, we will see how the unconscious, reacting with severity can “tell a dreamer where to go” and refuse to answer.
In French people’s dreams, England, being on the map to the left of France, is often a representation of the unconscious world.
The queen represents the ruling activity of the unconscious, which is feminine, in opposition to the conscious masculine world.
I thank the artists for their illustrations listed in order of their presentation :
Cloud : ac.reims.fr
Cloud : comitefetes.martillac.fr
Cloud : linternaute.com
Cloud in the sky of Montreal : flickr.com
Femme perplexe : olivierkaestle.blogspot.net
Femme douteuse : pixers.fr
Sheets : cotemaison.fr
Sheets : Anne de Solène :
Sheets : berceaumagique.com
Queen Elisabeth 2 : effetimages.blogspot.com
Queen Elisabeth 2 : news.de.stars.com
Queen Elisabeth 2 :leblogdechoncon.over-blog.com
Queen Elisabeth 2 : mesprincesses.romandie.com
An insignificant dream !
We last spoke of Helena (05/ 18), the mother of two children. She had just learnt she was pregnant and was left facing a painful dilemma : Would she keep her baby or abort ? She incubated a dream but it did not tell her what she should do. However it advised her to look within herself to discover what she really wanted.
And so Helena is still tormented.
Knowing how trying this situation is for her, I phone her to see how she is doing.
- Helena, how are you?
- I have unbelievable headaches, nausea and I’m exhausted.
- Did you see the doctor as planned?
- No, my gynecologist won’t be there till next week and the G.P. is away.
- Did you get a dream?
- Pff! I don’t know what, it was something hazy. Wof ! A thing, almost nothing, I’ve half forgotten anyway.
As for me, I’m not offended, her reaction illustrates the general attitude towards dreams in France.I reply :
- It doesn’t matter Helena. If you want, we can look at the dream. Tell me what you remember of it.
I was with a guy, a young man. I found him attractive. We walked side by side on the street. I was trying to get closer to him, but he wasn’t responding.
I proceed methodically with the interview technique :
A young man
I ask her the usual question :
- Helena, what is a young man?
- It’s a dynamic man, full of ambition who wants to make his life a success.
- How does a young man live?
- He’s not responsible for a family yet and he can live all kinds of experiences.
I recapitulate the description and establish the link with her daily life :
- So, at this time, what does a dynamic person, who wants to live all kinds of experiences and not be responsible for a family, remind you of?
- Oh! Ha! Well, it’s me, who would like to live differently and that’s why I’m hesitating to keep the baby.
So then, according to Helena’s own associations, the young man represents the side of Helena, who doesn’t want to have the baby.
Let’ us see further:
I found him attractive.
The young woman is attracted, tempted to adopt the young man’s attitude, refusing the responsibility to take care of a third child.
Now the dream considers what would happen, if Helena chose to live like the young man.
We are walking side by side on the street
- What is a street ?
- The street is where everyday life takes place, answers Helena
- What is that street like?
- It’s small, it’s dark.
- So, it describes a dark little everyday life.
I try to get more details and ask :
- Could you give the name of this street ?
- Euh…Evylod street.
- Evylod ? Sounds like a pun, a play on words, they are frequent in dreams. Tell me, Helena, do you hear something in Evylod ?
- …Yes,… I hear heavy, … and lod, load ! Oh ! Evylod sounds like… “heavy load”. My God, Helena cries out, that’s what I thought. This decision would be a heavy load to carry. I would be haunted by the idea that I could have kept the baby.
A few seconds of emotion.
Then I continue exploring the images and ask :
- In what city is this street located ?
- In the city I lived in, when I was a teenager, answers Helena. I don’t feel like going back there.
All of a sudden Helena flares up:
- At that time I was completely immature, I went out, I was partying all the time, I was irresponsible. I screwed around a lot, I drank and smoked pot, it was “anything goes”! I don’t ever want to live like that again.
I am astounded and tell her :
- Helena, did you hear what you just said ?
No, when the dreamer describes an element of her dream, she doesn’t realize what she’s saying, so it’s up to me to recapitulate her comments so that she will become aware.
- Listen Helena, I will recapitulate what you’ve said :
If you decide to abort (walking with the young man)
- you will end up in a small, dark life (street)
- also bearing a heavy remorse (heavy load).
This would be the price to pay, because you preferred to go out, party and have affairs.
But you say you don’t want that kind of life anymore, so what does it mean ?
Helena is silent, she thinks, she tries to find an answer and finally mumbles :
- So, hum,… it means that I don’t want to find myself in the same situation as before and so… that I don’t want to go with that young man… And so…
But, that means… that means …that means I want to keep the child... …
I WANT TO KEEP THE CHILD the mother cries out !
She continues :
- Ho, it’s unreal! That’s what I felt, I’ve always wanted a third child but I was lost.
The voice of the young woman is trembling and I am also teary eyed.
The following dream images barely necessitate an interpretation.
I was trying to get closer to him, but he wasn’t responding.
The side of Helena who would like to experience all kinds of pleasures and activities in the outside world can’t be matched with the one who is pregnant. Helena can’t cumulate these two facets of herself simultaneously. It’s one or the other.
This young man is the opposite image of Sarkosy’s son, who appeared in her preceding dream. Through these different images we become aware that our inner world is made up of opposites. In Helena’s case, at this time, the opposites are
- on the one hand : discipline, effort, work
- and on the other hand : an easy life, pleasure and irresponsibility.
Now Helena has chosen.
We are both profoundly touched, filled with immense gratitude and marvel in regards to the dream.
Such an insignificant little dream, so unimpressive that the dreamer didn’t even want to look at it.
This benevolent dream made Helena aware of what she deeply wanted. Here again the dream doesn’t show her what she should do, it merely shows her the consequences of her choice. Then it’s up to her to draw her own conclusion and make her own choice.
And Helena chose lightheartedly.
I thank the artists for their illustrations listed in the order of their presentation:
Ill : blogjump.eu
“Rêve oublié”, “Forgotten Dream” by Colbrak : fotocommunity.fr
A young man : Alex Pettyfer : actu-people.staragora.com
“As a child’s dream”, by the photograph Peter Zulnik
Heavy remorse : Ici.tf1.fr
Smoking : newcourriercasablanca.com
Love affair : actu-people.staragora.com
Tendresse, painting by the French artist Anne Marie Volodos : http://mapage.noos.fr/anne-marie.volodos
Hand in hand : babynewhome.com
You find this study on the French Blog on 05 22 2007
Dear blog friends,
We have been away from this blog too long and we often thought we should publish a little note to explain our prolonged absence. Now that we have a bit more time, we want to share with you the latest news concerning our work with dreams.
“ My conference this year at the symposium of the International Association for the Study of Dreams (IASD), required a huge amount of time for preparation from November 2010 on.
The first task, accomplished by Judith, was the translation of the French conference. I had to cut out many details of the text because I speak slower in English and I had to respect the allotted time. But the most arduous work for me was to correct my thick French accent.
Going over the text numerous times with Judith, my English teacher, finally helped me to manage it.
As all the required prepations before the Congress worried me a lot, I was comforted by a dream which told me that everything was OK.
The symposium took place on the last week of June in Rolduc, Netherlands, near the German border. The magnificent building is an old abbey which has been converted into a hotel and congress center
The four day symposium was a real success thanks to IASD’s admirable organizing committee.
There were approximately 200 presenters and co-presenters, who together with the attendees represented 30 countries from around the world. This year’s theme being “Dreams and Cultural Diversity”, every attendee could choose according to his own interests among the presentations from so many different cultures.
I had the pleasure of meeting with the American researcher Dr Scott Sparrow, whose work guided me 35 years ago when I first started working with dreams.
Among so many interesting dream lovers I met Layne Dalfen, a Canadian analyst, who, like me, explains dreams on her blog.
It was also the ideal occasion to meet with Europeans who share the same passion for dreams. Here are only some of them.
We will get together to pursue our common goal and spread the work with the dreams. As members of the European chapter of the IASD, we have decided to initiate some activities: exchanges through Internet and a yearly meeting. Harry Bosma, from Holland is our coordinator and he has created the site for our exchanges.
As for me, every morning from 8 to 9, I animated a dream group. Working with a participant’s dream, I showed how to use the interview technique to find the meaning of the images.
As to my conference “Loving and Sexual Scenarios in Dreams”, some people said : “ Interesting and funny !” I hope I invalidated some frequent prejudices linked to the interpretation of these images.
The congress closed with its traditional ball and the costume contest.”
After those intensive days I had more work waiting for me upon my return.
(Oh my computer is bold... !)
“ On the 8th of July I had been invited by a local radio network to participate in a night program from midnight to 6 in the morning. You heard me right.
I spoke about dreams and I interpreted live twelve submitted to me by the listeners. I withstood it for 41/2 hours and then went home…rather tired. It took me two days to recuperate!
That night, while driving my car, guided by my GPS, I remembered with emotion a sentence I had heard in Rolduc :
“The most comprehensive TomTom navigating system and Internet explorer are found within yourself !” That sentence was spoken by the business man Jan H.Kieft in his remarkable conference “The Road to Enlightenment according to my Dream”.
And I ask : Where is it within yourself ? In your dreams, of course.
Then in the following two weeks I prepared the intensive five day dream interpretation training seminar for my students. It has just ended.
So now I am free to pursue the studies on the blog!”
Next time, we will resume the studies on dream incubation where we left off.
Christiane and Judith
IASD logo : link on the left in the blue part of the blog
Painting : Dream and cultural diversity, by the artist Willem Fermont, Manager in the Netherlands Conference committee
Dr Scott Sparrow, pioneer in lucid dream and dream analysis, professor at the University of Texas
Layne Dalfen from Canada
Tony Hawkins from England “ Rooted in Reality, Informed by dreams, Born of the Infinite”
Anita Leuthold from Swizerland, dream analyst
Anne Marie Gabella from Switzerland leads dream groups
Judith with Ghazaal Bosorgmehr from Iran, specialist of dreams in Iran literature with Jung’s psychological approach.
Harry Bosma, developing the dream research and exchanges on Internet
Sakira Lanting and Mark Thuring, psychologists in Netherlands, attending Christiane’s dream group
Christiane during the morning dream group
Christiane during her conference
Christiane and Judith, after the conference
Christiane and Brenda Ferrimani, American artist
Moon-Brenda and Sun in pleasant company
Richard Wilkerson, IASD web and office Manager
Curtis Hoffman, Professor of Anthroplogy and Archeology, also animates dream groups.
- Curtis disguised in baby
- Curtis looks like a Greek god
As you have seen in the preceding text, seeking advice from one’s dreams has been a universal practice. With Irina’s dreams I have given you examples of answers given by dreams. However it happens sometimes that the answer is ambiguous or that the dream gives no answer at all.
This is what happened to Helena. Here is the dream she received last week. Helena will soon be turning forty, she is a mother and since a few days she knows she is pregnant. She is wondering whether she’ll keep the baby or not. She wants to and she doesn’t want to.
On the one hand she feels a motherly desire, she loves children and family.
But on the other hand she feels like a woman who, arriving at mid-life, would like to realize another type of project in view of self-realization. She feels like going out, living for herself a bit, finding new, pleasant activities and meeting friends.
She is torn between accepting this pregnancy or not.
Once it is yes, and then it is no.
She is tormented and decides to ask her dream if she should keep the baby or not.
A very serious question, an oppressive task for the interpreter…….courageous. Let us see the dream.
I have a son, his father is Sarkozy, the president of France. My son is a young man, strong and sturdy, very interesting and very reasonable.
Between us there is a great understanding and a respectful complicity.
He asks me if I have accomplished what I wanted in my life.
I answer :
- No, it’s not easy. I add that it’s never too late and that maybe I…
He smiles at me and tells me that I can share my thoughts with him.
I feel great strength, a real support emanating from him. I wake up feeling happy.
Here are Helena’s answers during the interview.
I have a strong, sturdy, interesting and reasonable son.
Helena doesn’t have such a son in reality, so this one represents a strength, a way to assert oneself that she has developed over the years. She possesses the qualities underlined by the dream.
He is Sarkozy’s son
It would be ridiculous, absurd to think that Helena fantasizes about the President, no, the dream indicates that this inner strength was the result of adopting the same values as him, as a way of living.
We are talking about Helena’s Sarkozy, of the personal image that she has of this man. This is not political, it concerns an interior dynamism of hers. So we must ask her the “interview” question :
- Helena, what is Sarkozy for you, what is he like?
- I love what Sarkozy says, we share the same values : order, work. I appreciate the fact he wants to sanction the trouble makers. I love his strength and his humanity, he has the courage to say out loud what others think but never express.
So this description defines an aspect of Helena’s nature which has common points with Sarkozy, as she sees him.
He asks me if I have accomplished what I wanted in my life.
Crucial question ! By this the dream asks the young woman to question herself on the meaning of her life and to take stock of it. Following this she could look inside and decide whether or not she will keep the baby.
I answer no, it’s not easy. I add that it’s never too late and that maybe I…
Helena doesn’t complete her sentence, she keeps the rest to herself. This attitude shows that there are aspects in her that she doesn’t want to admit to herself, that she doesn’t want to look at.
My son smiles at me and tells me that I can share my thoughts with him.
This strength which is part of her and also larger than her invites her to be authentic, to do like his father Sarkozy, to “have the courage to say out loud what others think but don’t express.”
What is the dream doing? It’s asking her to dare to be truly herself.
Is that a direct answer to her question?
No, the dream doesn’t answer, it leaves Helena with her own decision, it allows her the freedom of choice. The answer concerning the decision of keeping the baby or not will spring up when she dares to be herself.
I feel great strength, a real support emanating from him.
The dream shows that, whatever the solution, Helena will have the needed strength to face up to it.
I wake up feeling happy.
She feels happy because now she knows that she is free, that whatever the outcome she will live as she wants because she knows that this inner strength will not fail her.
So this dream is an example of the limits of incubation. Yes, the unconscious is benevolent but we must not expect everything from it. We must exercise our own judgment, our will power and our freedom. If we asked the unconscious to dictate our behavior, we would be like machines. To expect all the answers from our dreams would be infantile abdication of our responsibility for our own life. The unconscious guides us toward our independence, it encourages us to exercise our freedom of choice and to live the experiences that our choices have brought forth. Practicing incubation profusely won’t lead to maturity, on the contrary.
I thank the French artist Mrs Anne Marie Volodos who permits me to illustrate our blog with her paintings.
Jason Lewis : Tecmix.aufeminin. com
Sarkozy : backchich.info
Jason Lewis : instyle.com
Jason Lewis : people.plurielles.fr
Le grand Bleu by Mme Anne Marie Volodos
In our last release we saw the importance that dreams and incubation held in Antiquity in the Pagan and Jewish world, until around 300 A.C.
Christians in turn, perpetuating the long Jewish tradition, had exactly the same point of view and practices regarding dreams as members of other religions.
Remember that the Bible recounts over 200 dreams where God indicates the safest way to follow;
for example the dreams in the New Testament received by Joseph concerning the child Jesus, as wel as those received by the Apostles Peter and Paul. You remember how Joseph, a pious Jew, sees an angel several times in his dreams.
The angel tells him to take care of Mary, the pregnant young woman bearing the child Jesus. Also, in another dream the angel tells him to flee to Egypt with her and her child to escape Herod’s massacre. So, through the intervention of dreams, the child Jesus was saved.
He would later become Christ and change the established civilization.
In those days everyone considered dreams as being the natural way of communication between the human and the divine levels. Everyone knew that a man, through his dreams, could get answers to his questions and receive guidance from this information. Incubation was a current universal practice.
For example, around year 200 A.D. one of the most famous sanctuaries was built in the city of Pergame in Asia Minor, the ancient Greece, now located in Turkey, near the city of Izmir.
The temple was dedicated to the god of dreams and healing Asklepios. There priest/doctors practiced their famous dream therapy and interpreted pilgrim’s dreams.
At that same time, in the year 203, a young woman, Perpetua, was living in the part of North Africa, now called Tunisia, in the city of Carthage, not far from Tunis.
Perpetua was thrown in prison for her Christian faith. There, she wrote her life story before her martyrdom. Her story has been presented by Jung’s famous collaborator Marie Louise von Franz who also analyzed her dreams.
In her poignant account Perpetua tells us how she asked God to guide and support her through her dreams and especially to tell her if she should expect liberation or martyrdom. The process of incubation is very simple and furthermore she is in prison.
Perpetua indicates how she proceeds and relates :
“ My brother told me :
- Sister, you now find yourself in a position where you can ask to receive a vision which shows you if you have to expect martyrdom or liberation.
And I, she writes, conscious of the benefits that God had bestowed on me through the dialogues that I was accustomed to having with Him, and filled with trusting faith, I promised :
-Tomorrow I will tell you.
Then, I asked a vision and this is what was shown to me…”
She then tells her dream, which was received the next day and reveals the interpretation :
“We understood that the dream signified imminent martyrdom ; from then on we did not entertain any hope concerning this worldly life.”
Perpetua died in the arena and “she proved steadfast as she guided the death sword to her own throat when a young soldier trembled too violently to dispatch her cleanly.”* (Dan Graves)
Perpetua’s story confirms that dream incubation was widely practiced, by Christian people as people of different religions.
I could give other examples from around the world but my objective here is not to search for more general knowledge. My objective is to awaken a personal interest in you and to inform you as to the possibility of gaining access to a living dialogue with your dreams, should you be interested in trying this new experience for yourself.
The passion of Perpetua, Marie Louise von Franz, Paperback
Great Women in Christian History, Curtis, Kenneth and Dan Graves,
ed. Pennsylvania : Wingspread Publishers and Christian History Institute, 2004.
The Christ of Rio Janeiro
The two portraits are Fayum Portraits, painted in Egypt, from the last century BC to the middle of 3rd century AD
In the preceding pages I showed you how current dreams had come to answer Irina’s recent questions. Incubating a dream still works nowadays as it did in the old times.
I will illustrate this by going back in time and talking about dreams and dream incubation in ancient societies all through Antiquity.
In Asia Minor and throughout the Mediterranean region
We find the same situation. The study and interpretation of dreams go back as far as the early archeological remains bear witness to it. 7000 to 8000 years ago the inhabitants of Mesopotamia interpreted their dreams. The picture here shows the Sumerian cuneiform tablet where is written the Epopy of Gilgamesh, with the dream of the Deluge. 1000 years later this dream inspired the story of Noah’s Ark in the Bible.
The Sumerians, the Egyptians, the Greeks, the Romans and the Hebrews maintained this way of living in contact with their dreams, as attested to by numerous passages of the Bible.
1700 years B.C. Pharaoh called upon a Jew, Joseph, to interpret his dreams and thereby he averted a famine in Egypt. ( Genesis, Ch. 41)
One thousand years later the king of Mesopotamia, Nabuchodonosor II,( 630-562 B C) asked another Jew, Daniel to tell him the meaning of his dreams. Daniel interpreted the dream and explained to the king that his megalomania would result in a psychotic episode in his life.
However, after several years of madness, he would come out of it with humility, recovering his power and glory. And that’s what happened. ( Daniel, Ch. 4)
In the Greco-Roman world
There existed a very famous dream interpreter. He is better known as the father of Western medicine. His name is Hippocrates who lived 600 years B.C. He came from a family of dream interpreters dedicated to the god Aesklelpios, the god of dreams and healing ; they bore the responsibility of three functions, that of priest, doctor and dream interpreter, as the three were considered inseparable.
The temples/hospitals where people came for treatment were numerous. In Antiquity there were 420 of them. The sanctuary of Kos, where Hippocrates officiated, was very famous, such as the one of Pergame, where 800 years later, at the beginning of the Christian era around year 250, pilgrims still flocked from the whole Mediterranean region.
Incubation and dreams
Praying Aesklepios in Greek, or Aesculapius in Latin, god of dreams and healing.
The pilgrims prepared to dream on a specifically chosen night. They received a very modern, natural and holistic treatment, prescribed by the priest/doctor : they followed a special diet, took baths, received massages and prayed. Then the priests and the pilgrims met in the temple in a sacred place called Aesclepeion, dedicated to Asklepios.
They slept there one or several nights, and the priests collected their dreams the next morning.
What dreamers dreamt and experienced during these nights has been reported. It was very well known that the god intervened in different manners : either he healed immediately, either he manifested his presence in dreams with the image of a snake or a dog.
Western medicine has taken up the symbol of the snake but has forgotten its meaning.
In the dream the god also explained the treatment to be followed in order to heal.
On site, many ex-votos thank Aesklepios for the healing.
You can see here an ex-voto with a hand, showing a kind of abscess , which was cured after the night spent in the Aesclepeion.
Today, I have spoken about dreams and incubation in Antiquity among Sumerians, Jews, Egyptians, Assyrians, Greeks and Romans. Next time we will see a especialy fascinating dream from Antiquity at the time of Christ.
I thank the artists and photographers, whose works permit me to illustrate my blog.
Joseph interpreting Pharaoh’s dream
Nabuchodonosor who became mad, by Blake
Hippocrates with a patient
Aesclepeion in the sanctuary of the Kos Island in Greece
Aesclepeion in the sanctuary of Pergame, in Turkey
The god Aesklepios, the god of dreams and healing
The grass snake accompanying the god Aesculapios
The caducei of Aesclepios, with snakes, symbol of healing
Ex voto with a hand, showing a kind of abscess
Sphinx under the moon by the German artist Schinkel , 19th century
Who is the “other”?
How to decipher the meaning of a person in a dream ?
Dreams have the surprising habit of telling you what no one knows, what no one dares to tell you, and also what you don’t necessarily want to hear. Throughout your nights, with patience and benevolence they show you the different facets that exist within you, all your different ways of being.
To make you aware of that, dreams will tell you: “Look inside yourself, you are LIKE Mr.X or Mrs.Y, whom you know in the exterior world. You have the qualities or faults that you attribute to them”.
Only you don’t know it. But your interior world knows and wants to make you aware of it.
Indeed it is in your best interest to get to know these unrecognized aspects of yourself to harmonize them and to realize your full potential as well as your life realization.
So, when you study a dream you must first know that most often, the persons in the dream are facets of yourself. While in most cases they are describing you, it occasionally happens that these persons represent the corresponding person in the exterior world.
In another coming lesson, I will explain how to know if the image of your dream is personifying an interior aspect of yourself or an exterior person.
I emphasize that every time, for every person in the dream, you will have to study the image with the interview technique in order to know exactly what the dream is talking about.
That is the way to proceed regarding the image in your dream. A more thorough and comprehensive explanation of this method can be found in Gail Delaney’s books featured on my blog.
A certain state of mind
It is important to approach a dream with a certain state of mind :
- accepting that you have the solution and that with a bit of attention you’ll find it.
- accepting that you will make the required extra effort rather than consulting a readymade dream analysis book or a catalogue of symbols.
- accepting to refrain from reverting to astrology or tarot cards etc. to interpret your dream. Indeed the dream itself gives you messages that are much more precise, personal and adequate if one deciphers it.
Interpreting a dream is not a matter of divination, or pseudo intuition, it is a scientific research, requiring rigorous and honest reflection and logical analysis. Only by working in this manner can you be sure of the result.
The Dream Interview Method
Here, I propose to you a practice of this method. You will be the interpreter and the dreamer, both asking the questions and answering them. And it works ! Of course it is much more pleasant if somebody else is leading the interview.
Dream example : Rita, a 45 year old woman, a mother, sees a woman in her dream, Mrs. X.
1) We must proceed with the interview and ask questions
Question 1: WHO is Mrs. X?
Answer: She is my neighbor. She lives across the street.
Advice: Don’t let yourself get caught up in endless descriptions. Take the first three associations which came to the dreamer’s mind, three sentences are sufficient.
Question 2 : HOW is Mrs. X ?
Answer : She’s a very active, intelligent woman, who takes good care of her children, but she’s an awful neighbor. I always have the impression that she’s watching everyone, she has a tendency to be nosy and to get involved in other people’s business.
Advice :You must note the associations and descriptions given, with great care leaving nothing aside.Here again, being a beginner at interpretation, limit yourself to a maximum of 3 or 4 sentences.
2) Do the recapitulation
Take the answers given to questions 1 and 2. Give preference to the abstract answers. Limit yourself to 3 sentences. Use only the dreamer' own words.
Example of a recapitulation : Mrs. X is an intelligent woman, but is inclined to be nosy and get involved in other people’s business.
3) Establishing the link with everyday life
Ask the following question : looking inside or outside yourself what does following description remind you of : “an intelligent woman who is inclined to be nosy and get involved in other people’s business” ?
The dreamer will think about it.
She says : On the outside it is Mrs. X.
How about inside the dreamer ? I ask Rita if Mrs. X could represent a particular behavior, an aspect of her own personality that she is not really aware of ?
4) The dreamer answers this question and finds the meaning of the image.
When I asked that last question, Rita remembered that, the day before that dream, she had rummaged through her teenage son’s pockets and read a letter that was addressed to him.
She had done that self righteously, thinking that her behavior was that of a responsible mother concerned with her son’s welfare.
But her interior world doesn’t see the situation in the same manner and comes to express its opinion in the night. Rita understood why the dream showed her the image of the nosy neighbor. Indeed she had behaved like Mrs. X, and the dream showed her that that was detestable.
Most of the time, with the image of another person, the dream is revealing a facet of the dreamer himself, that he or she is not conscious of.
Take note that I said : most of the time but not always.
5) Proceed to verifications, this is imperative.
We don’t end our investigation at the fourth step of the method. It is not sufficient to have found the interpretation made by the dreamer. Only by making verifications can you be sure that the meaning found is adequate. The verifications give proof of the validity of the interpretation.
I reiterate that I firmly oppose “esoteric” ways of interpreting dreams which can lead to so many errors and abuses, that Napoleon in the 19th century had even passed a law forbidding dream interpretation and fortune telling, in order to protect the public from trickery.
Getting back to our dream, it is still indispensable to check if all that has been said about the neighbor can also be said about the dreamer.
For this, one must go over every sentence covering the different points of the description and ask:
- Are you also an intelligent woman ?
- Active ?
- Do you take good care of your children ?
- On occasion are you too curious ?
- Do you have a tendency to watch everybody ?
If one of these points isn’t suitable, then the meaning found for the symbol " Mrs. X " is wrong. In that case one must redo the whole interview and the dreamer must be very honest with herself.
If the different elements of the description suit both the dreamer and Mrs. X, then you have found the signification of the symbol.
It is through rigorous and honest verifications that one can establish if the dream points to an exterior or an interior person.
Dreams don’t always express criticism, far from it, they can equally reveal unrecognized positive aspects of the personality.
6) Apply the message in our everyday life
It is useless to decipher a dream if one is not willing to accept and apply its indications.
Rita quickly understood the reproach of her dream and from then on abstained from giving in to her “nosy inclination”. Her son appreciated the respect she showed towards him.
I thank all the artists and photographers whose works permit me to illustrate my blog.
Symbols catalog : dreams : luckymojo.com
Tarot dream interpretation : ravenmoonlight.com
Woman at work : natureacive.fr
Nude woman in a veil, by the French artist Enjolras, 1857-1945, interencheres.com
Stressed woman : papillesetpupilles.fr
Woman playing violoncello by the French artist Jacqueline Hubert : http:// www.jacqueline-hubert.com
The neighbor : Harriet Samson Harris, purepeople.com
The nosy neighbor : Felicia Tilman, tvqc.com
Harriet Samson Harris, desperate housewife, episode39.fr
Lettre d’amour :blog.fille.com
Harriet Samson Harris, sharetv.org
Jean Baptiste Maunier in the film “ The Choristers”
Jean Baptiste Maunier : teemix.aufeminin.com
I am Christiane.
I am a teacher by profession. Dreams are my passion, interpreting them is my pleasure and teaching the art of interpreting them is my vocation.
I spent forty years of my life as a teacher in the Education Nationale. I taught two languages, French and German in France and abroad.
Meanwhile I also learnt to understand and teach the language of dreams.
It first began in 1976, while teaching in Tahiti.
I started to study dreams on my own, guided by books from the Edgar Cayce Foundation, the A R E, where Scott Sparrow, now an IASD Board Member, was involved in researching and writing about dreams. Thanks to this support I acquired a solid base.
This link with the ARE was precious to me, when later on in Turkey (1978-1982) I continued, still alone, to try to understand my dreams.
Nobody in my surroundings understood my passion for dreams and they even told me I was crazy. For your information, it is a sad fact that since Napoleon's time until 1992, dream interpretation was forbidden by a law in France.
From 1982 to 1987, in Berlin, Germany, I studied at the Gestalt Therapy School and at the Freudian School of Psychoanalysis. Then I discovered the “ dream interview method” created by Gayle Delaney. I immediately adopted this efficient tool.
In 1985, I started reading Jung. Then came a dream which showed me a man whom I knew only by name : Etienne Perrot. The dream advised me to work with him. In my search for information about him, I discovered that he was Jung’s spiritual son and translator in France. I worked with him for five years. By analyzing my dreams he transmitted Jung’s spirit to me and lead me to understand the alchemy process.
In 1987, having come back to France, I pursued my teaching career. At the same time I began to transmit what I had learned and I set up dream study groups.
In 1991, I founded an association called "Dreams to Live By," which in 2004 became the Academy for the Interpretation of Dreams. Since then I have continuously been teaching dream interpretation in very small groups, where every one can practice. I also held seminars on symbols. I give interpretations in person over the phone or through Skype.
In 1994 a dream ordered me to write a book. And so, in 1996, twenty years after my first steps in the dream world, "Rêves à Vivre" (Dreams to Live By) was published. This book is a practical and spiritual manual for dream interpretation.
Then ten years later I wrote "Amour et Sexe dans vos Rêves" (Love and Sex in your Dreams), in which I write about what dreams say about love and their explanations about the sacred path of sexuality.
In 2007 I started a blog to give the French public the opportunity to recognize the value of dreams, and the means to understand them.
Lately my Canadian student Judith Saint Laurent has agreed to translate the essays of my French blog into English.
Throughout these years I developed additional activities :
the medias contact me from time to time for newspaper articles and radio and television interviews.
I have just started a dream salon in a small hotel in my neighbourhood, where anyone can come to talk and learn about dreams. Also I often give conferences in France and abroad.
Now a member of IASD,(International Association for the Study of Dreams) it brings me great joy to have the opportunity to exchange with researchers who are exploring and promoting the realm of dreams.
I thank the artists and photographers whose work permit me to illustrate our blog.
1968- 1972 : The first high school where I began to teach with pupils almost as old as me.
Tahiti, 1972-1978, where Elsie Sechrist, ARE International Representative who helped me discover dreams and their interpretation. pressetahiti.com
Sunday in the lagoon : voyage-bons-plans.aufeminin.com
Working during the week in Paul Gauguin high school in Papeete, Tahiti,
The ARE, the Edgar Cayce Foundation
How to interpret your dreams, practical techniques based on the Edgar Cayce readings, by Mark Thurston, ed. ARE.
In Turkey, in Istanbul 1978-1982.
The great basilica Hagia Sophie, built in 325 after J.-C., now a museum.
The dream sanctuary in Pergame.
In Berlin : 1982-1987.
Living your dreams by Gayle Delaney, ed. Harper and Row. I discovered Delaney’s interview method in the ASD Monthly News vol.1 nb.3., 1984, in an article where Gayle Delaney explained it.
Etienne Perrot and his wife, who both have dedicated their lifes to dreams and the path of alchemy, that Jung had rediscovered and explained.
C G Jung and Etienne Perrot's book " Path into the Depths" , ed La Fontaine de Pierre
"Rêves à Vivre", a practical and spiritual manual to dream interpretation by Christiane Riedel, ed. de Mortagne, 1995
"Amour et Sexe dans vos Rêves" Book by Christiane Riedel, ed. Trajectoire, 2006
Judith Saint-Laurent, my Canadian translator.
Exlpoding Raphaelesque Head, by Salvator Dali
French blog : christiane-riedel.blogspirit.com
In the preceding pages I have introduced you to dream incubation. This practice permits us to receive from the unconscious information that the conscious is unable to have access to.
I showed you how this practice is still valid today as in the ancient times and how to proceed.
Last time, with Irina’s example we saw how her dream answered her and showed her that the lover she was thinking of was not a good prospect.
So again she asks what she could do to meet a suitable partner.
The dream gives her new and surprising information. Let’s have a look at this second dream.
My sister Eva shows me a building where she goes to feed a cat. Every time she arrives, he rushes towards her.
I show Eva a pretty bra which I have just bought. But I notice that the cat is slipping away. My sister says I have to bring him back.
This dream is absurd ! The images don’t seem to have any connection from one to another.
However, let’s see the interpretation and look at the different symbols :
She’s Irina’s sister, she’s assertive and knows what she wants. She is very independent and hates constraints.
Eva represents Irina’s single woman aspect. Any beau that approaches her is made to understand that she doesn’t want a one night stand but that she doesn’t want a relationship where she would be subservient either. She is looking for a loving relationship without constraints based solely on the pleasure of being together when possible.
For the dreamer it’s where the occupants share common habits.
Irina hopes that the dream will show her how to find a suitable partner.
Following the interview technique, now I have to ask what this description reminds her of, in regards to her incubation question.
So I proceed very methodically and say :
- Having asked your dream how to find a suitable partner, what does a building, where the occupants share common habits remind you of ?
- Oh ! says Irina, that reminds me of the singles club where I go regularly.
For Irina, this animal is an independent male who goes out at night to hunt or chase a “beauty”. Isn’t that the description of a man?... So the dream, through its symbolism, is talking about a man, whom Irina knows well and meets regularly. Who is this man ?
Now, is the dream giving more precise details ?
She goes to feed this cat.
What does she feed him with ?
With flesh? Who is this man with whom there is contact of the flesh?
Among the many men she dances with at the club, who is the man the dream is singling out ? Let’s examine the next image :
Every time she arrives, the cat rushes towards her.
- I see, Irina cries out, that’s Frank. He always comes to get me when he sees me. He’d like me to go out with him, but I'm not really attracted to him.
Let’s go through the verifications: is this man independent? He sure is.
So why does this independent man rush to meet her ? Because she is also independent and he knows that she’s not the “you and me forever” type.
- But, remarks Irina, another man also rushes towards me, it’s Stephan.
Frank ? Stephan ?
We haven’t got a clear answer yet. So let’s see if the following part of the dream gives us more precise clues.
I show Eva a pretty bra which I have just bought
A bra enhances the breasts.
It allows a woman to use her power of seduction, it gives a charming glimpse at feminine eroticism.
- As a matter of fact, Irina adds, lately I’ve changed, I’ve bought new outfits, less sober, much more sexy.
And so the dream underlines the efforts made by our dreamer to seduce the men around her.
Irina bursts out in a joyous, refreshing laughter and says:
- You know, Christiane, I am quite popular !
I notice that the cat is slipping away.
Well, while the pretty woman is savoring her popularity with one and the other, all of a sudden the tomcat is running off.
Is it Frank or could it be Stephan?
- Ah! It’s true, says Irina ! Frank is turning away from me because I haven’t responded to his advances.
And what does the dream say?
My sister Eva says I have to bring him back.
Well there we are !
Eva, the woman who knows what she wants gives this advice.
-Gosh ! says Irina. Frank ? I would have preferred someone else. He’s not bad but it’s not love at first sight.
Yes, but the dream considers Frank a real male, an instinctive virile man, this is quite different from insect infested branches as in the preceding dream.
Maybe Irina should remember that she wants enjoyable sexual relations and therefore change her point of view.
Well, now we have the indications of the dream. They are not what Irina expected but they bring something new. Irina doesn’t know everything, perhaps her view is limited to the surface, the appearances.
- Listen, she says, Christiane, I’ve been working with you interpreting my dreams for a couple of months and everything you’ve told me concerning them has been so exact. If I had listened to them, I would have avoided lots of trouble. So I’ll see, I’ll go and meet him.
But she has to hurry, he’s taking off.
You will find the text in french on the french blog http://christiane-riedel.blogspirit, 12 May 2007, (05 10 2007)
You will find the text in french on the french blog
http://christiane-riedel.blogspirit, 12 May 2007, (05 10 2007)Illustrations
I thank the artists and photographers, whose works permit me to illustrate my blog.
Laughing cat : maxcrabouif.zeblog.com
Cat : fond-ecran-image.com
Cat : pixfr.eu
Cat : naturailes.org