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10/26/2011

CH.11 WHEN THE UNCONSCIOUS REFUSES THE INCUBATION

 

Several months ago we started studying dream incubation. We have examined several aspects of the topic. Now it is time to take the following question into consideration and see what  the dream answers :

Does the unconscious always answer an incubation question ?

 

With the latest dreams we have seen that the unconscious doesn’t like to be asked questions repetitively. It accepts giving the desired information of course, but it will only give what it deems necessary. When we look at the dreams, it appears that the unconscious doesn’t always have the same point of view as us, concerning what we need to know or not.

Today, you will read an answer to an incubation dream, which is much harsher than the preceding one, because the dreamer is trying to exploit the unconscious to his own advantage.

 

The dreamer Arnaud is very worried because his wife is sick.  However, what poses a problem to him is not the state of her health but rather he worries that she may no longer be able to work, and that means a loss of income. He calculates the family finances.

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What he’s truly concerned about is not how he can help his wife or what kinds of treatments could cure her, but rather whether she will get money from a “paid” sick leave. He asks his dream to answer this question.

 

Dream: The Sovereign Cat.

I go into a “café”. There is a black cat in the middle of the hallway. I raise my leg to go over it. The cat lifts its head, glares at me…

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I am paralyzed, I can’t put my leg over across the cat, I can’t go into the café.

 

Interpretation

The “café”.

It is the place where one can drink a black tonic beverage which wakes you up : coffee.

 

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 Last time we have seen a frequent meaning of coffee :

The beans of the coffee tree are the fruits representing the dream symbols which appear naturally. The dreamer collects them and the dream interpreter acts as a coffee bean roaster, a blender, a coffee machine, transforming the beans to obtain an universally appreciated drink : this black liquid which awakens is the interpreted dream.

 

The setting

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The “café” represents the place, the moment when the dreamer makes contact with the unconscious through dream interpretation.

For Arnaud, in view of the question he asked, the setting, this “café” represents the place where he can geta dream interpreted and the desired information.

So Arnaud would like to get an answer thanks to an interpreted dream.

 

The black cat in the hallway.

The cat is a domesticated animal, which nonetheless retains a wild side.It lives in the home environment but can’t be trained. It is ferociously independent. It has the very rare ability to see in the dark, in the night.

It’s black color, like that of the coffee, expresses its link with the unconscious.

So what is the cat ?

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This black cat is the way the unconscious chooses to present itself to the dreamer.  When Arnaud goes into the “café” to get his dream interpreted and to know if his wife will receive a pension, first he comes across the cat, this natural instinct, the unconscious, which sees in the night and can never be trained. 

This cat occupies the middle of the passageway, as if it were the master of the place, as if it were guarding its entrance.

 

I raise my leg to go over it.

Our friend wants to go in.  He doesn’t pay any attention to the cat, he could acknowledge it :

- Oh ! Hello cat !

So he could write a letter and say :

  - Dear dreams !

He could even bend down, pat the cat and say.

- Wow, you’re so beautiful!  Could you let me go by ?

Would you please help me to see clearly our present financial situation ? Your information would allow us to plan ahead. Will my wife get a workman’s compensation ? Thank you very much for answering.

 

But no, Arnaud ignores the cat and wants to step over him. He wants to get his dream and the information without any consideration for the unconscious, as if Arnaud were master of the cat-unconscious.

 

The cat lifts its head and glares at me.

The cat/unconscious is indignant at this lack of consideration.  Its anger is expressed by the fury of his glare.  Lightning shoots from of its eyes. dreams,dream interpretation,christiane riedel,judith saint laurent,incubation,cat, café   dreams,dream interpretation,christiane riedel,judith saint laurent,incubation,cat, café

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lightning is the attribute of Zeus, the king of gods, it is also that of Yahweh, the God of Jews, also called the god of ire. Lightning bolts are the manifestation of the divine wrath. 

So, it’s as if the cat were saying: who is this boor who intends to go over me and acts as though I didn’t exist?  This guy is ill-mannered.

 

I can’t cross over the cat

The anger of the cat paralyzes the dreamer.  He won’t be able to enter the “café”: the incubation process won’t work, he won’t get the dream that would give him the information he wants.

  

Comment

This little dream is highly significant.  It underlines a recurrent trait in our cultures today : I mean a lack of attention toward the unconscious and ignorance regarding the interior world at large. All the rituals designed to approach this dimension have been neglected, forgotten.  We act as boors and consider ourselves as masters of the domain ! The unconscious finding us very casual, becomes contemptuous and reacts vigorously !

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The analysis of this little dream shows us that the unconscious manifests itself as an autonomous reality which is not under our power.

It is an independent, sovereign function. 

The unconscious is willing to cooperate, to help but we fall prey to a big illusion, if we think we can exploit or abuse it. The unconscious cannot be manipulated and will never be at our ego’s service.

Moreover the last image shows clearly that the unconscious paralyzes the one who tries to exploit it for personal material gain.

 

Conclusion

You might have noticed that the image of the cat in Arnaud’s dream doesn’t have the same signification as the cat in Irina’s dream posted earlier.  The meaning of an image changes according to the dreamer and the circumstances. 

In Irina’s dream the cat symbolized a man in the outer world.

 

Here, in Arnaud’s dream the cat manifests the same mysterious, independent, sovereign dynamism, that the Egyptians adored in cats, in the cat-goddess Bastet.

Truly Arnaud’s cat appears much more powerful than the humans. The cat dominates, it possesses a divine quality.

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So, you can see in this contemporary dream the permanence of representations and conceptions which were found in vestiges of the past, some dating as far back as 5000 years old. Carl Gustav Jung called these images “archetypes”. These are not created voluntarily by human minds, they appear by themselves as images in dreams, and represent powerful dynamisms. Our ancestors considered them as the manifestations of divine forces on the earth. 

Could this dream invite us to understand that the unconscious is divine ? 

 

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Illustrations

I thank the artists for their illustrations listed in order of their presentation :

Calculations : capifrance.fr

Le café du Forum, by the French artiste Vincent van Gogh,19th century.

Black cat : caneton.fr

Egyptian cat : chaosexmachine.info.fr

 

 

 

03/11/2011

CH. 4 : THE CAT OR HOW THE DREAM ANSWERS IRINA’S NEW QUESTION

In the preceding pages I have introduced you to dream incubation. This practice permits us to receive from the unconscious information that the conscious is unable to have access to.

I showed you how this practice is still valid today as in the ancient times and how to proceed.

Last time, with Irina’s example we saw how her dream answered her and showed her that the lover she was thinking of was not a good prospect.

So again she asks what she could do to meet a suitable partner.

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The dream gives her  new and surprising information.  Let’s have a look at this second dream. 

 

Dream

My sister Eva shows me a building where she goes to feed a cat.  Every time she arrives, he rushes towards her. 

I show Eva a pretty bra which I have just bought. But I notice that the cat is slipping away.  My sister says I have to bring him back.

 

This dream is absurd ! The images don’t seem to have any connection from one to another.

However, let’s see the interpretation and look at the different symbols :

 

Eva

She’s Irina’s sister, she’s assertive and knows what she wants.  She is very independent and hates constraints. 

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Eva represents Irina’s single woman aspect.  Any beau that approaches her is made to understand that she doesn’t want a one night stand but that she doesn’t want a relationship where she would be subservient either.  She is looking for a loving relationship without constraints based solely on the pleasure of being together when possible.



  

  

  

  

A building 

For the dreamer it’s where the occupants share common habits.

Irina hopes that the dream will show her how to find a suitable partner.

Following the interview technique, now I have to ask what this description reminds her of, in regards to her incubation question.

So I proceed very methodically and say :

- Having asked your dream how to find a suitable partner, what does a building, where the occupants share common habits remind you of ?

- Oh ! says Irina, that reminds me of the singles club where I go regularly.

 

A cat

For Irina, this animal is an independent male who goes out at night to hunt or chase a “beauty”.  Isn’t that the description of a man?... So the dream, through its symbolism, is  talking about a man, whom Irina  knows well and meets regularly.  Who is this man ?

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Now, is the dream giving more precise details ?

 

  

  

She goes to feed this cat.         

What does she feed him with ?  

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With flesh?  Who is this man with whom there is contact of the flesh?

Among the many men she dances with at the club, who is the man the dream is singling out ? Let’s examine the next image :  

 

Every time she arrives, the cat rushes towards her.

 - I see, Irina cries out, that’s Frank.  He always comes to get me when he sees me.  He’d like me to go out with him, but I'm not really attracted to him.

Let’s go through the verifications:  is this man independent?  He sure is.          

So why does this independent man rush to meet her ?  Because she is also independent and he knows that she’s not the “you and me forever” type. 

-  But, remarks Irina, another man also rushes towards me, it’s Stephan.

Frank ? Stephan ?

 

 

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We haven’t got a clear answer yet. So let’s see if the following part of the dream gives us more precise clues.         

 

 

 

  

I show Eva a pretty bra which I have just bought 

 A bra enhances the breasts.

 

It allows a woman to use her power of seduction, it gives a charming glimpse at feminine eroticism.

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- As a matter of fact, Irina adds, lately I’ve changed, I’ve bought new outfits, less sober, much more sexy.                                                                    

And so the dream underlines the efforts made by our dreamer to seduce the men around her. 

Irina bursts out in a joyous, refreshing laughter and says:

- You know, Christiane, I am quite popular !

 

 

I notice that the cat is slipping away. 

Well, while the pretty woman is savoring her popularity with one and the other, all of a sudden the tomcat is running off.     

Is it Frank or could it be Stephan?

- Ah! It’s true, says Irina ! Frank is turning away from me because I haven’t responded to his advances. 

And what does the dream say?                                                                               

 

My sister Eva says I have to bring him back.

Well there we are !

Eva, the woman who knows what she wants gives this advice.

-Gosh ! says Irina. Frank ? I would have preferred someone else.  He’s not bad but it’s not love at first sight.

 Yes, but the dream considers Frank a real male, an instinctive virile man, this is quite different from insect infested branches as in the preceding dream. 

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Maybe Irina should remember that she wants enjoyable sexual relations and therefore change her point of view.

Well, now we have the indications of the dream.  They are not what Irina expected but they bring something new.  Irina doesn’t know everything, perhaps her view is limited to the surface, the appearances.

- Listen, she says, Christiane, I’ve been working with you interpreting my dreams for a couple of months and everything you’ve told me concerning them has been so exact.  If I had listened to them, I would have avoided lots of trouble. So I’ll see, I’ll go and meet him.

 

But she has to hurry, he’s taking off.       

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You will find the text in french on the french blog

http://christiane-riedel.blogspirit, 12 May 2007, (05 10 2007)

Illustrations

 

I thank the artists and photographers, whose works permit me to illustrate my blog.

Laughing cat : maxcrabouif.zeblog.com

Cat : fond-ecran-image.com

Cat : pixfr.eu

Cat : naturailes.org

Bra :cannnes.olx.fr